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If Kamara was playing in the Sixties.

Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:21 pm
Posted by gerard07
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:21 pm
Playing against that competition he would have given Gayle Sayers a run for the most exciting player in the game. Boys I have watched them all since 1962, and Alvin Kamara is a Gayle Sayers clone. Alvin just happens to be playing against superior talent. Last season I saw several runs that Kamara was a shoestring from going the distance. What I am saying is one player eight yards from scrimmage trips him up before he hits the secondary. If he gets by that player shame on the last DB trying to tackle him. #41 is so special !!! He's our Gayle Sayers !!! I would not trade him for any back in the league. I feel the same way about Drew Brees.
Posted by Spelt it rong
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:29 pm to
Tell us how you feel about Meredith though.
Posted by lovinLSU
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:32 pm to
If Kamara played back in the 60’s he would have been a hell’eva Linebacker...
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 8:34 pm
Posted by ruzil
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:33 pm to
The better question is how good Sayers would be if he played today and didn't have his career ruined by a knee injury.

Karama is incredible, but Gayle Sayers highlight reel is off the chain.
Posted by gerard07
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:37 pm to
Yes, Sayers off the charts playing against 50% of the DB's that were white.
Posted by gerard07
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:43 pm to
Meredith is a con man fooling management just enough to get the money, and then sit in the whirlpool.
Posted by ruzil
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 8:51 pm to
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Yes, Sayers off the charts playing against 50% of the DB's that were white.

Racist
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 8:52 pm
Posted by LurkerTooLong
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by Directional Tiger
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 10:01 pm to
He probably would have been an offensive lineman at that time.
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 6:36 am to
A few players back then were ahead of their time, it's hard to say what one would do in a different era Kamara may get broke up in the first game back then football was a lot rougher there's so many rules now compared to then. But I get your point
Posted by saints5021
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:55 am to
You really can't compare players of the 60s and today. Sayers probably sold insurance during the offseason and played against all around inferior defenses. Also, analytics and player management weren't a thing back in the 60s. Sayers would have never put in work during the offseason to change his open field running style because a specialist told him he could slightly improve his top end speed.

Kamara in the 60s would be the greatest RB ever.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:43 am to
Growing up in the 50's and sixties AK wouldn't be the same guy or runner unless your using time machines in your OP then yes. AK would dominate
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:54 am to
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Alvin Kamara is a Gayle Sayers clone


Kamara is a great player & I was a fan of his even before the Saints drafted him but pump your brakes here. Sayers was on another level prior to his ACL injury & the Bears team doctors butchering his knee during surgery.

Sayers straight line speed & change of direction was simply better than Kamara's while both had/have similar vision & balance.

Gale Sayers
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:00 am to
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He probably would have been an offensive lineman at that time.


Alvin Kamara 5'10 215 lbs

Gale Sayers 6'0 200 lbs

Probably not
Posted by Shiftyplus1
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:46 am to
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I would not trade him for any back in the league


We wont have to. With all the drama surrounding other NFL RBs and their inability to get massive contracts, hopefully Kamara realizes he isn't going to be paid like Michael Thomas.
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 11:48 am to
Imagine the nose ring and the dreadlocks in the 60s

People would lose their shite
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 12:22 pm to
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Gayle Sayers highlight reel is off the chain.

so was Wilt Chamberlain's...

when you are physically more gifted than pretty much everyone else on the field, it's pretty easy to stand out, like Sayers and Chamberlain...

hell, the most run of the mill practice squad player in today's NFL would be a fricking superstar back then, b/c the level of athleticism, training, etc is greatly amplified now...

players train year round now... back then, they had to pick up 2nd and 3rd jobs to make ends meet in the offseason... the level of preparedness is not even close to being the same.... the size and speed of the game is drastic, as well...

Sayers would be, at best, a 2nd tier star- role player in today's NFL... AK would have been the 2nd coming of Jesus back in the 60's...
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 12:23 pm to
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other NFL RBs

ahh... but he's not like other NFL RBs... he plays a much, much larger role in the passing game, and can use that to his advantage in contract negotiations.... is he looking at MT money? nope, but to think he's going to come cheap is ill-informed....
Posted by ruzil
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 12:58 pm to
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training, etc is greatly amplified now...


Yep, with all that natural talent, Sayers would probably not benefited from modern day training.

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players train year round now

Same, no way Sayers would have trained year round to hone his craft.

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Sayers would be, at best, a 2nd tier star- role player in today's NFL

Just Stop!!!
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 8/22/19 at 1:06 pm to
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Sayers would be, at best, a 2nd tier star- role player in today's NFL... 


This is such a shitty take. Sayers would be just as good or even better with today's weight training, sports nutrition, agility training & sports medicine. This is what people like you always forget to factor in when comparing past players to the present. Humans haven't evolved or genetically mutated from physical standpoint over 40-50 years. The change has come in sports science & how athletes now prepare their bodies for competitive sports.

Sayers definitely would have had a longer career had the technology of today's arthroscopic medicine been available to players back then. What is now a simple ACL tear lead to doctors completely butchering Sayer's knee due to the fact the procedure was not advanced & doctors not really knowing what they were doing back then.

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the size and speed of the game is drastic, as well... 


Bob Hayes who was a record breaking Olympic sprinter then WR for the Cowboys in the 60s, would still be one of the fastest players in the NFL right now.

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We don't have any record of 40 times for Bob Hayes. But it's said he once ran a 60-yard dash, on a cinder track, in 5.28 seconds. You heard. Sure, it was hand-timed. Sure, there's no record. But this much is certain. Bob Hayes won the 1964 Olympic gold medal in the 100 meters in Tokyo in 1964 in 10.05; and he won by four full meters. Nobody wins an Olympic 100-meter final by that margin unless they are Jesse Owens in Berlin, 1936. Bullet Bob wasn't even pressed. He downshifted in the last 10 meters of that race. Pulled up. Eased off. Saved a little. If pressed, he could've gone faster. Bullet Bob was as fast as he had to be.

The Bullet Man was behind five relay teams when he got the baton on the anchor leg of the 4 x 100-meter relay final in Tokyo. He made up nine meters on the field. Nine meters! He ran his leg in 8.6. That's not running. That's teleportation. That's Star Trek.

When he passed the finish line, he was two meters clear of the next finisher. He tossed the relay baton in the air. 



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Hayes currently holds the record for the fastest 4 × 100 m anchor leg of all time, as well as the world record for the 70-yard dash (with a time of 6.9 seconds). He also is tied for the world's second fastest time in the 60-yard dash. He was once considered the world's fastest human by virtue of his multiple world records in the 60-yard, 100-yard, 220-yard, and Olympic 100-meter dashes. Hayes is the only athlete to win both an Olympic gold medaland a Super Bowl ring.


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This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 1:10 pm
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