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Hayes hearing in progress thread

Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:28 am
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:28 am
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Jade Cunningham ?@Cunningham_JL 7m7 minutes ago
State calling first witness, NOPD police officer Christopher McGaw

Jade Cunningham ?@Cunningham_JL 5m5 minutes ago
Says he heard 2 loud bangs which sounded like car accident. Was off-duty night of April 9th

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 4m4 minutes ago New Orleans, LA
He heard screaming argument. Predominately male voices. Definitely 2 parties screaming at each other. Argument increased.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 3m3 minutes ago New Orleans, LA
He saw tall black male with dreads with gun. He ducked behind cover because he was unarmed.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 2m2 minutes ago New Orleans, LA
He looked out from building he was behind. 40 seconds to a minute. He called 911 before he knew anyone had been shot.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 2m2 minutes ago New Orleans, LA
He approached Cardell Hayes on sidewalk passenger side. "Hey fellas what is going on"?
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:32 am
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:32 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 2m2 minutes ago New Orleans, LA
Witness identifies Cardell Hayes as person he spoke with. Entire conversation with Hayes is recorded by 911 operator. Will hear it shortly.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 2m2 minutes ago New Orleans, LA
911 call is being played in open court.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:35 am
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:36 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 5m5 minutes ago New Orleans, LA
"Oh you have a gun, I have one too." Smith said.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 2m2 minutes ago New Orleans, LA
"Argument then gunshots. Bunch of people out there. "

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 44s44 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
"5 or 6 shots".

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 34s34 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
At least 1 male carrying a gun.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 1m1 minute ago New Orleans, LA
911 call in court is not easy to understand what is being said.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:38 am
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:39 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 45s45 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
Cardell Hayes said "what was I supposed to do"

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 32s33 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
Cardell Hayes was not detained and was free to go when witness spoke to Cardell Hayes.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:40 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:39 am to
If its established that Hayes threatened with a gun first, that really hurts him.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:41 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 1m1 minute ago New Orleans, LA
He identified Hayes and his passenger in a photo line up. He confused the 2 and reversed their roles in the line up.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:43 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 30s31 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
John Fuller begins cross examination. Nighttime. Heard accident. Arguments. Went to scene of accident. Saw 3 cars in accident.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 49s50 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
Saw vehicles stayed on the scene. Hayes stayed on scene of accident.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 1m1 minute ago New Orleans, LA
Witness did not smell alcohol on Hayes. Speech not slurred. "I had no way to determine he state of sobriety"

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 57s57 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
"Out of academy for 4 months. I did not search any of the vehicles."

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 55s55 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
"Heard escalating argument. Multiple parties arguing that turns into a fever pitch."

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 30s30 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
"You can't tell us if my client was approached by 1 person or 4?" Correct.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:48 am
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:49 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 51s52 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
Your client said "he charged up on me"

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 31s32 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
I did not see anyone who was shirtless. Fuller asked if the shirtless man was a driver of a vehicle and left the scene that is a crime.


My eyes are really drawn to this tweet...

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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 37s38 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
2 or 3 shots then pause then several more shots.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:51 am
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:52 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 1m1 minute ago New Orleans, LA
Hayes stayed on the scene "and he did make an excited utterance that he had shot someone"

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 43s43 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
He was free to leave. He could of merely walked off? Yes sir.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:54 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 1m1 minute ago New Orleans, LA
My client said, What was I supposed to do? Yes.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 53s54 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
I saw responding units arrive.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 56s56 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
My issue on scene was to determine if there threats to life. "Santa Claus may have been on the scene".
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:55 am
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:56 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 20s20 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
Jury would certainly form certain opinions based upon his demeanor if they were sitting in the jury box with me this morning.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 42s43 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
He looked at lineup at homicide offices at police headquarters. 6 individual photographs twice.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 59s59 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
How long did you look at photographs? Not long.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 10s10 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
I had flip flopped the roles of My Hayes and Mr. O'Neal.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 10:59 am
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:01 am to
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John Simerman ?@johnsimerman 5m5 minutes ago
Judge Camille Buras denies Fuller chance to question McGaw about whether cops got together to get story straight in Will Smith killing.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:01 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 37s38 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
2 or 3 shots then pause then several more shots.



Hmmm. Interesting.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:02 am to
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John Simerman ?@johnsimerman 1m1 minute ago
McGaw said he never asked Hayes directly whether he saw Will Smith with a gun.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 58s59 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
He checked on Will Smith in his vehicle. Had appeared to be reaching for glove box. Chest on console. Hand reached out towards glovebox.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 11:04 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:02 am to
Hayes got out of car with gun, Smith sees, says he's retrieving his gun... there's no argument to be made for Hayes imo. That is the crucial point of the whole debate.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:04 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 1m1 minute ago New Orleans, LA
He checked on Will Smith in his vehicle. Had appeared to be reaching for glove box. Chest on console. Hand reached out towards glovebox.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 1m1 minute ago New Orleans, LA
"I checked his pulse and already appeared cold "

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 24s25 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
Re direct by prosecutors. Exhibit 2: ballistics report indicating all casings were fired by 1 weapon. Admitted into evidence.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 11:07 am
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:08 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 23s23 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
Next witness: officer Amanda Williams.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 28s29 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
District Attorney's daughter, Laura Rodrigue is asking questions.

Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet 44s44 seconds ago New Orleans, LA
Responded to upgraded aggravated battery by shooting call.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 11:11 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:10 am to
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"Oh you have a gun, I have one too." Smith said.


So Hayes brings up guns first? Interesting.
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:10 am to
seems like this shite would be televised.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:11 am to
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seems like this shite would be televised.

not sure about Louisiana... but a lot of places don't allow cameras in the courtroom

I believe Louisiana doesn't
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