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Has anyone else noticed the Saints Draft better now that RP is gone?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:37 am
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:37 am
It seems after Ryan Pace left for Chicago, and the Saints brought in Jeff Ireland they seem to draft much better.
It seems Pace in Chicago, has made questionable coaching hires with John Fox, and in the draft with Trubiskey and with other moves.
I believe the Saints definitely upgraded with Ireland over Pace.
It seems Pace in Chicago, has made questionable coaching hires with John Fox, and in the draft with Trubiskey and with other moves.
I believe the Saints definitely upgraded with Ireland over Pace.
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Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:38 am to boudinman
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I believe the Saints definitely upgraded with Ireland over Pace.
Absolutely
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:42 am to boudinman
IIRC, Pace was pro personnel and didn't have a big voice in the draft. Ireland is college personnel and he replaced Rick Reiprish. Terry Fontenot took over Pace's role with the Saints.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:54 am to boudinman
It's hard to gauge the last two drafts bc we've been mortgaging draft capital to win now w/ the Brees window.
Hard to argue how good McCoy and Davenport (when healthy) have been tho. Them panning out has been crucial.
Hard to argue how good McCoy and Davenport (when healthy) have been tho. Them panning out has been crucial.
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:54 am to boudinman
No doubt.
Also not going to Vegas for a key portion of the pre draft process helps.
Ireland struggled as a GM but in this role he has now, heavily focusing on college scouting, he's as good as it gets.
Also not going to Vegas for a key portion of the pre draft process helps.
Ireland struggled as a GM but in this role he has now, heavily focusing on college scouting, he's as good as it gets.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:15 pm to boudinman
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This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 7:35 am
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:34 pm to boudinman
Ryan Pace should be fired for trading up to get Trubiskey.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:40 pm to Billy Mays
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It's hard to gauge the last few drafts bc we've been mortgaging draft capital to win now w/ the Brees window.
I don’t agree with this at all.
In the last few drafts, we’ve added Lattimore, Ram, Kamara, Marcus Williams, Hendrickson, Davenport, CGJ, and Eric McCoy
That’s pretty damn impressive for any team, especially for one that’s mortgaging draft capital as you said
If you go back an extra year, you can add MT13, Rankins, Vonn Bell, and Onyemata to that list.
That’s a ridiculous amount of above average to elite starting NFL talent
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:56 pm to BreesyInBigEasy
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In the last few drafts, we’ve added Lattimore, Ram, Kamara, Marcus Williams, Hendrickson, Davenport, CGJ, and Eric McCoy
I meant the last 2 drafts. Few = two, but I'll edit it.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:58 pm to Billy Mays
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It's hard to gauge the last two drafts bc we've been mortgaging draft capital to win now w/ the Brees window.
I dunno man, theres a lot of solid players, some probowlers and a couple of all pros
thats a pretty good gauge of success!
But I think I get where youre coming from...how much has/will giving up those picks to move up affect us long term.
Posted on 4/3/20 at 3:01 pm to Billy Mays
Before it’s too late, they should move Mickey higher up in the organization and give Ireland the official title but them both still essentially have the same duties. Ireland deserves it and it’s clear Mickey isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Why not reward both?
Especially if they add two more dynamic players in the first and third round this year
Especially if they add two more dynamic players in the first and third round this year
Posted on 4/3/20 at 4:46 pm to Billy Mays
We mortgage picks bc we go get the right players. If you sit pat and miss out on the player you want then you have to settle. I would rather trade up for our guy than draft two busts. It has worked well for us and I think we learned a lesson in 2018 when we ended up cutting all of our late round picks. Our roster is so good that we don’t have room for all those guys/picks
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:07 pm to Billy Mays
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I meant the last 2 drafts. Few = two, but I'll edit it
So it’s hard to judge arguably the greatest draft in nfl history from 2 years ago?
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:13 pm to Billy Mays
Shy Tuttle and Deonte Harris were two of the best rookies at their position as UDFAs. Most teams actual draft picks didn’t have that much success
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:25 pm to GynoSandberg
They also replace every scout a few year ago too
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:38 am to MLU
Ireland has done better.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 12:57 pm to BreesyInBigEasy
quote:Agreed. There are 31 NFL team that wish they did as well.
That’s a ridiculous amount of above average to elite starting NFL talent
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:35 pm to boudinman
Ireland was the difference.
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:35 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Those picks and add in the fact that we have been in the playoffs.
So yes we have traded away some 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders to move up to grab players like Kamara and McCoy. But they are great players.
So yes we have traded away some 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders to move up to grab players like Kamara and McCoy. But they are great players.
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