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re: Has any mainstream media guys questioned the officiating yet?
Posted on 10/14/13 at 2:54 pm to shel311
Posted on 10/14/13 at 2:54 pm to shel311
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But without watching a replay, I can almost assure you of this - Had we intercepted that very last pass and won, some guys on some Patriots message board would be posting pics and gifs on big plays where we got away with holding and/or some other penalty.
I'm pretty level headed about penalties and no calls and such. I think I've proven that today in multiple threads by only saying there were two blatant bad calls instead of the laundry lists other posters have.
The Pats have NOTHING compared to what we have to complain about from yesterday. The closest thing they have is the push off, but IMO that was a push off.
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Posted on 10/14/13 at 2:56 pm to LSUandAU
quote:By the way, what was this in reference to?
Even though you pissed me off with an intended insult recently
I tend to hold back any insults until they're thrown at me, like in this very thread for example lol.
I'll apologize in advance, and take the blame for this one as a symbol for this current thread. My bad.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 2:59 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Fair enough.
I'm pretty level headed about penalties and no calls and such. I think I've proven that today in multiple threads by only saying there were two blatant bad calls instead of the laundry lists other posters have.
The Pats have NOTHING compared to what we have to complain about from yesterday. The closest thing they have is the push off, but IMO that was a push off.
But my point is, when we win because we benefit from 2 completely blown calls, you don't hear about it on here. And if someone brings it up, yet another Saints fan will try to point out the 22 bad calls that went against us.
If you read any message board of any team, it's the same thing, their team is always the one that gets screwed in a loss.
If this board was flooded with as many "we're so fortunate to get those calls we did in that win we had", then I wouldn't complain nearly as much.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 2:59 pm to landrywasbeast30
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The guy was still offsides when the o-lineman moved. You don't have to make contact. You should probably do some research about the sport of football before getting into debates about it with people who aren't as dumb as you.
Yeah, I wrote that wrong...sorry! The D can jump around and move, but not jump into the neutral zone, startling the O line into moving. A judgement call for the refs. Is that the play where the Saints players initially clapped, thinking the penalty was on the D. If so, it was very questionable call then...as i said, a judgement call by refs right in front of it. I have kids who played/play college football.I know the rules.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:01 pm to carhartt
the media is sucking Brady's dick right now.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:01 pm to shel311
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If you want my honest opinion, it's what losers do, and that's in all aspects of life. Don't like an outcome, it's ok, just don't accept responsibility, we'll blame someone else. Get outta here with that.
I was just sugarcoating it the first go round.
WAH, IT'S ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT. WOE IS ME!!!
It's about the least manliest thing a sports fan can do.
Ok big man, you want to throw out the taking resonsibility angle? How about the referees taking responsibility for the mistakes in the game? If what your saying is right we should expect some apologies from the refs and the league. For atleast the obvious blown calls. The phantom false start, the bounced pass that was ruled a catch and the tackle/hold on the OL on the last play, refusing to give brees a TO.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:03 pm to shel311
I just think LSUandAU, and you as well, are kinda trumping the "blame the officials for the loss" mantra. There are very few people that are saying the officials are THE reason we lost yesterday. That doesn't mean that we can't complain about two very terrible calls that had a direct impact on the game. Not all bad calls lead to points, so in the grand scheme of things they are no big deal. But the non time out put the winning points on the board. Again, not the reason we lost, but it's very infuriating that something so basic as calling a time out got fricked up to the point of costing us points.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:05 pm to shel311
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Has any mainstream media guys questioned the officiating yet?
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Even though you pissed me off with an intended insult recently
By the way, what was this in reference to?
I tend to hold back any insults until they're thrown at me, like in this very thread for example lol.
I'll apologize in advance, and take the blame for this one as a symbol for this current thread. My bad.
Oh god, don't apologize...it was about JaMarcus's real estate in California! I, once again, had crossed my signals...unsure whether he had allowed it into foreclosure...CA is a walkaway State...or sold it at a $500K loss, which would be bad advice! There were conflicting statements in the thread. It would be a great story if he comes back successfully!
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:05 pm to LSUandAU
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Yeah, I wrote that wrong...sorry!
At least you admitted it.
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Is that the play where the Saints players initially clapped, thinking the penalty was on the D
Yep. Also, you were debating this without even being sure what play we were talking about?
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:05 pm to LSUandAU
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Yeah, I wrote that wrong...sorry! The D can jump around and move, but not jump into the neutral zone, startling the O line into moving. A judgement call for the refs. Is that the play where the Saints players initially clapped, thinking the penalty was on the D. If so, it was very questionable call then...as i said, a judgement call by refs right in front of it. I have kids who played/play college football.I know the rules.
You're not even sure what play it is and you're trying to talk shite. GTFO. It shouldn't have been a judgement call. There was at least one, if not two NE players in the neutral zone when our guy jumped. That should be a definitely penalty against the defense. It's only a judgement call if you're blind. And you'll forgive me for assuming the refs can see.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:05 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:Yes, I think I've established that pretty well.
Ok big man, you want to throw out the taking resonsibility angle?
quote:How about it? They should be held accountable, where did I say otherwise? Why are the 2 mutually exclusive?
How about the referees taking responsibility for the mistakes in the game?
quote:If that makes you feel better, you can sit and wait around for the apologies. I'm sure the Saints organization meets and discusses calls with officials weekly. If they tell the team they botched a call, that should suffice. There's no need to tell us, much less apologize to us.
If what your saying is right we should expect some apologies from the refs and the league
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:07 pm to shel311
You seem to argue that blown calls by the refs "all even out in the end." That there are bad calls/non-calls against both teams.
In a closely contested game, like the one yesterday, that's not the case. Some blown calls are much worse than others, and can affect the outcome.
In a closely contested game, like the one yesterday, that's not the case. Some blown calls are much worse than others, and can affect the outcome.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:10 pm to liquid rabbit
quote:I never said they even out in the end of 1 game.
You seem to argue that blown calls by the refs "all even out in the end." That there are bad calls/non-calls against both teams.
In a closely contested game, like the one yesterday, that's not the case. Some blown calls are much worse than others, and can affect the outcome.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:10 pm to shel311
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Why are the 2 mutually exclusive?
They aren't, which is what some people were trying to explain to you. It's possible to point out the refs mistakes while also acknowledging the Saints screwed up.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:11 pm to LNCHBOX
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You're not even sure what play it is and you're trying to talk shite. GTFO. It shouldn't have been a judgement call. There was at least one, if not two NE players in the neutral zone when our guy jumped. That should be a definitely penalty against the defense. It's only a judgement call if you're blind. And you'll forgive me for assuming the refs can see.
Just trying to be cordial...it is the play the Saints were clapping about...judgement call...maybe a bad call. If I recall, the replay didn't really give definitive proof either way...judgement call!
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:12 pm to LSUandAU
It was definitive if you were paying attention and knew the rules.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:12 pm to shel311
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I never said they even out in the end of 1 game.
Just out of curiosity, can you give an example where we won a game due to some incredibly blatant calls/no calls? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
I have to echo what others are saying about the difference between a ticky tack no call, and the blatant hosing we got twice yesterday.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:12 pm to LSUandAU
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Just trying to be cordial...it is the play the Saints were clapping about...judgement call...maybe a bad call. If I recall, the replay didn't really give definitive proof either way...judgement call!
Just get the frick out dude. You've shown your arse completely in this thread. I hope it was entertaining for you.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:12 pm to landrywasbeast30
quote:Well thanks, I appreciate the explanation.
They aren't, which is what some people were trying to explain to you.
I personally don't care to spend any time worrying about officiating, though oddly I'll admit I have spent a lot of time today worrying about others worrying about officiating apparently.
The Saints can't control that, we don't have a clue how next game will be officiated, so I prefer to talk about stuff the team can dictate.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 3:13 pm to LSUandAU
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If I recall, the replay didn't really give definitive proof either way...judgement call!
Right, the replay only showed the defensive lineman clearly being offsides when the offensive lineman moved. No proof there.
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