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re: Get rid of Mark Ingram now!

Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1789 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:49 pm to
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He's lost three fumbles in six years

He's actually lost 5 with 9 fumbles over all. Considering his "lack" of carries that's too many.

He had a great game though, the o-line probably should've received a game ball along with Ingram. The team gained 154 yards before contact on the ground. He had to feel like he was back in college.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:57 pm to
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He's actually lost 5 with 9 fumbles over all. Considering his "lack" of carries that's too many.



We've already been over his fumble rate in comparison to other running backs. It is well below others
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1789 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:00 pm to
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We've already been over his fumble rate in comparison to other running backs. It is well below others

Your fumble rate comparison does nothing for me, less carries than the other guys per season is all I need to see. If he averaged 300-325 carries a year with that "fumble rate" then I'd be impressed. Like it has been said before, there are many variables to consider when looking at stats.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 4:04 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:05 pm to
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Your fumble rate comparison does nothing for me, less carries than the other guys per season is all I need to see. If he averaged 300-325 carries a year with that "fumble rate" then I'd be impressed.


Do you understand what the word "rate" means?

That literally means that it is adjusted for the number of carries.

DERP
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83265 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:14 pm to
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Do you understand what the word "rate" means?

That literally means that it is adjusted for the number of carries.


Posted by shaqtaw
Member since Oct 2009
6645 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:35 pm to
He was not worth the first round pick they gave for him. He is average on his best day. The niners are worse than the saints on run defense, let that sink in.
Posted by breauxmosexual
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2016
2526 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:41 pm to
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The niners are worse than the saints on run defense, let that sink in.


Yeah and so are 14 other teams. Let THAT sink in
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74409 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 6:48 pm to
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He is average on his best day



Don't be fricking ridiculous
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

The niners are worse than the saints on run defense, let that sink in.



The saints run defense has been pretty good outside of 1 game....

quote:

He is average on his best day.


Yet, against the same defense, he ran for more yards and more ypc (a lot more ypc) than Gurley, Stewart, Michael, Elliott, David Johnson, McCoy, and Rodgers.

So yea, they suck, but on his "best day" he outperformed a lot of the NFL's best backs
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 6:54 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 6:53 pm to
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Well, does anyone here have anything to say for themselves?

I'm happy for Ingram, but it was against San Fran...who's absolute dog shite. If he looks like that again against Denver then I'll give him a little more credit.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9964 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 6:59 pm to
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I'm happy for Ingram, but it was against San Fran...who's absolute dog shite


I hate when people say crap like this. This is the NFL. All teams are professional and there is little variance in the overall talent between teams. It's not like college where a running back from a power 5 school can rack up ridiculous yardage against Southwestern Central Oregon State or something. Ingram rushed for 158 yards on a 10.5 ypc average. I don't give a shite if it was against the 49ers or the Seahawks or the Bills. Dude brought it yesterday and ran with a fury. Give credit where it's due.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 7:04 pm to
and honestly his best play may have been the screen for a TD
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
176234 posts
Posted on 11/7/16 at 7:07 pm to
Ingram needs an outside source of fury. Some players have the ability to stay self motivated.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54114 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 9:43 am to
I felt sorry for him so I voted him this week's nfl fedex ground player of the week
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31960 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:06 am to
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I'm happy for Ingram, but it was against San Fran...who's absolute dog shite. If he looks like that again against Denver then I'll give him a little more credit.



SF: 32nd against the run (193.0 YPG)
Denver: 29th against the run (128.6 YPG)

SF: 32nd YPC (5.25)
Denver: T-23rd YPC (4.40)

so still bad, but not Ingram did skew SF's worse lol
Posted by ShlikStyck
Bum F**k Egypt
Member since Jan 2005
3806 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 10:25 am to
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He had a great game though, the o-line probably should've received a game ball along with Ingram. The team gained 154 yards before contact on the ground. He had to feel like he was back in college.


It was SF, the worst run defense in the league by 60 yrds a game. It aint even close how bad they are.
Posted by Big D of the LC
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
1031 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:37 am to
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Ingram needs an outside source of fury. Some players have the ability to stay self motivated.


This quote says it all
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31960 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 11:46 am to
That's fine.

Did you see Fitzpatrick after he got benched? I say bench him every 4th quarter lol
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/8/16 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

It was SF, the worst run defense in the league by 60 yrds a game. It aint even close how bad they are.



Well less than 50, but I guess the point still stands.

And no other running back has done what he's done, despite playing a schedule against most of the NFL's best backs
This post was edited on 11/8/16 at 1:00 pm
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