re: Final PFF scores (Ranked from 1-59)

This should be the 52 players on our roster & our notable free agents...UFA, RFA, & ERFA.

-Jameis Winston (UFA)
-Taysom Hill - 12.325 mil (2025)
-Trevor Siemian (UFA)
-Ian Book - 993 k (2024)
-Blake Bortles - 895 k (2022)

-Alvin Kamara - 14.5 mil (2025)
-Mark Ingram - 2.211 mil (2022)
-Tony Jones Jr. - 825 k (2022)
-Ty Montgomery (UFA)
-Dwayne Washington (UFA)
-Malcolm Perry - 705 k (2022)

-Adam Prentice - 825 k (2022)

-Michael Thomas - 24.7 mil (2024)
-Marquez Callaway - 898 k (2022)
-Deonte Harris (RFA)
-Tre'Quan Smith (UFA)
-Lil'Jordan Humphrey (RFA)
-Kawaan Baker - 705 k (2022)
-Kevin White - 895 k (2022)

-Adam Trautman - 1.168 mil (2023)
-Nick Vannett - 3.3 mil (2023)
-Juwan Johnson (ERFA)
-Garrett Griffin (RFA)
-Ethan Wolf - 825 k (2022)
-Dylan Soehner - 711 k (2023)

-Terron Armstead (UFA)
-Andrus Peat - 15.45 mil (2024)
-Erik McCoy - 1.937 mil (2022)
-Cesar Ruiz - 3.457 mil (2023)
-Ryan Ramczyk - 23.041 mil (2026)

-James Hurst - 3.425 mil (2023)
-Landon Young - 867 k (2024)
-Ethan Greenidge (RFA)
-Calvin Throckmorton - 825 k (2022)
-Jerald Hawkins - 895 k (2022)
-Cohl Cabrel - 705 k (2022)

-Wil Lutz - 5.57 mil (2023)
-Brett Maher (RFA)
-Blake Gillikin - 825 k (2022)
-Zach Wood - 1.26 mil (2023)

-David Onyemata - 13.17 mil (2022)
-Shy Tuttle (RFA)
-Jalen Dalton (ERFA)
-Christian Ringo (UFA)
-Malcolm Roach - 705 k (2022)
-Braxton Hoyett - 825 k (2022)

-Cam Jordan - 22.881 mil (2024)
-Marcus Davenport - 9.823 (2022)
-Payton Turner - 2.846 mil (2024)
-Tanoh Kpassagnon - 3.1 mil (2022)
-Carl Granderson (RFA)
-Jalyn Holmes (UFA)

-Demario Davis - 11.0 mil (2023)
-Kwon Alexander (UFA)
-Pete Werner - 1.291 mil (2024)
-Kaden Elliss - 984 k (2022)
-Zack Baun - 1.312 mil (2023)
-Andrew Dowell - 825 k (2022)
-Sharif Finch - 825 k (2022)

-Marshon Lattimore - 27.453 mil (2026)
-Paulson Adebo - 1.145 mil (2024)
-Bradley Roby - 10.081 mil (2022)
-Keivarae Russell - 895 k (2022)
-Jordan Miller - 895 k (2022)
-Dylan Mabin - 825 k (2022)

-Marcus Williams (UFA)
-Malcolm Jenkins - 12.2 mil (2023)
-CGJ - 1.161 mil (2022)
-P.J. Williams (UFA)
-J.T. Gray - 2.5 mil (2022)
-Jeff Heath (UFA)
-Bryce Thompson - 705 k (2022)

Nope. Trust me, I looked.

He's playing here in 2022

I stand corrected. I'd actually be ok with that.

10.8 mil is a lot to save

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We have to clear about 70 mil...

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I'm sure you will have a thread soon breaking down how Loomis can get there with releases, extensions, restructures & with which contracts.

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I don’t know if its identification of guys, development or scheme, but the Saints do a great job of bringing in productive defensive linemen to rotate in every year. Guys like Tuttle, etc.

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I really think it's Ireland & his scouts' evaluation, Nielsen might be the best D-Line coach in the league, & Allen's scheme is simple yet very effective.

Our D-Line has been absurd over the last couple of years and easily top 3 in the league when relatively healthy.

I give Nielsen the most credit though. There was no way in hell CSP was going to let LSU poach him.

We lost Hendrickson, Malcom Brown, & Rankins this past off-season. Nielsen just plugged in unproven players & kept truckin.

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I don’t know if its identification of guys, development or scheme, but the Saints do a great job of bringing in productive defensive linemen to rotate in every year. Guys like Tuttle, etc.

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I give a lot of credit to Nielsen. D line has been great under him from top to bottom.

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It was not worse than Cincy’s and Kamara’s PFF grade is not an accident, when grading backs they take into account the blocking. Kamara did not have a good season running the football. I watched 17 games of Cincy with a terrible o line and Mixon was far superior at making something out of nothing.

I like Kamara. We all do, but what’s the point if we can’t be honest about things here? We can’t just pick and choose the PFF grades to trust. They are all graded under the same condition. Did they do their assignment? Did they read their blocks? Did they get every yard an average back should get in a similar situation? Kamara did not this year and as a result we were looking at 3rd and 9 all year instead of 3rd and 4.

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Actually our o lines were probably graded about the same overall. Throckmorton who played all year was in the 40's.

Armstead and ram were out half the year. Peat was gone basically all year. Mccoy missed what, 5 games? Ruiz was horrible. Throckmorton was horrible.

You have to take account of joe burrow and those receivers. That helps mixon out a bunch.

Kamara definitely had a down year running the ball but you have to account for the offense as a whole.

We really had no offensive threats at receiver.

Are you realltly trying to say kamara was responsible for 2nd and 9 instead of 2nd and 4 consistently?