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re: Fair to say that Saints are free-agent geniuses, but missed some 1st rds?
Posted on 2/6/12 at 1:58 pm to alajones
Posted on 2/6/12 at 1:58 pm to alajones
quote:
You're saying without Meachem, we don't win a Super Bowl? Because clearly, the Redskins game was key to that?
Only one game up on minny for homefield advantage, don't think saints win that game in minny. meachem strip could have very well been the difference in that season's ending.
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Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:00 pm to Suntiger
who knows when speculating concerning Graham. I think Olsen would have been a 75-100 catch TE in Payton's offense. They still might have taken Graham fours years later but the need factor would likely have been negligible vs. only having Thomas & Humphrey going into 2010.
Ellis will be a certified bust if he doesn't get back to 2010 progress this year (or if they cut him). At that time though he looked like a perfect fit for need and value.
Ellis will be a certified bust if he doesn't get back to 2010 progress this year (or if they cut him). At that time though he looked like a perfect fit for need and value.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:00 pm to Chad504boy
I edited because I didn't want to sound like a smart arse.
Anyway, we could also speculate that if we lose that game we wake the frick up and don't lose 3 in a row.
Anyway, we could also speculate that if we lose that game we wake the frick up and don't lose 3 in a row.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:03 pm to blueslover
quote:Definitely not even close to a 1st round talent apparently. Made a clutch play and that will live in lore so hey, not all bad I agree.
Meachem is no total bust, just didn't live up to 1st Rd expectations.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:03 pm to alajones
quote:
I edited because I didn't want to sound like a smart arse.
Anyway, we could also speculate that if we lose that game we wake the frick up and don't lose 3 in a row.
i knows which is why these threads are so much funner than anything else in life.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:07 pm to Chad504boy
Aren't they though.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:09 pm to Hung like Mule
i already looked up his stats before i posted. Colston drops the ball less, scores more, and fumbles less while being a much more physical receiver.
He has more touchdowns in 26 less games
He has more touchdowns in 26 less games
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:11 pm to Hung like Mule
quote:
White's stats are much better than Colston, sorry.
uh, no. Colston is also more consistent and has yet to have a bad season. + he doesn't drop the ball
Our 7th round draft pick has outperformed their 1st round draft pick
This post was edited on 2/6/12 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:12 pm to alajones
quote:
Aren't they though.
If it wasn't for meachem's suckage, lance moore would not have had the opportunity to develop and then make that clutch 2 point conversion which turned the tide in the super bowl.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:22 pm to TigerBait1127
Roddy White led the entire NFL in drops this season by a mile. Besides on field production he is a contender for my least liked NFL players. I can't stand his mouth- would hate him as a locker room guy. Reminds me of Brandon Jacobs.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:28 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:What do you mean "un no"? White's stats are better, its fact not opinion.
uh, no. Colston is also more consistent and has yet to have a bad season. + he doesn't drop the ball
White does have a problem with drops I agree, but Colston had the dropsies for a bit himself. Im not bashing Colston, I love the dude. But when someone said Colston's stats are better thats false.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:31 pm to Hung like Mule
quote:
but Colston had the dropsies for a bit himself.
link?
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:33 pm to Breesus
quote:Nevermind Breesus. Colston has never dropped a pass and no Saint player has ever made a bad play.
link?
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:34 pm to Hung like Mule
quote:
but Colston had the dropsies for a bit himself
please give me a source compared to the rest of the nfl
quote:
But when someone said Colston's stats are better thats false.
he has more touchdowns, less fumbles, and the same exact avg. as roddy white despite playing less years and 26 less games than white.
He had a much better season this year than roddy and has had a better career.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:35 pm to Hung like Mule
quote:
Nevermind Breesus. Colston has never dropped a pass and no Saint player has ever made a bad play.
has he ever dropped 15 passes in a season like roddy white did?
Colston dropped 4 btw
This post was edited on 2/6/12 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:40 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:I posted some side by side stats earlier in the thread. Did you read that? If not here it is again:
he has more touchdowns, less fumbles, and the same exact avg. as roddy white despite playing less years and 26 less games than white.
He had a much better season this year than roddy and has had a better career.
White
2007 83 1,202 6 td
2008 88 1,382 7 td
2009 85 1,153 11 td
2010 115 1,389 10 td
2011 100 1,296 8 td
Colston
2007 98 1,202 11 td
2008 47 760 5 td
2009 70 1,074 9 td
2010 84 1,023 7 td
2011 80 1,143 8 td
Im not following what you're saying sir.
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:41 pm to Hung like Mule
why are you leaving out the rest of their seasons?
are drops not a statistic
Colston had the 4th lowest drop % in the nfl
are drops not a statistic
Colston had the 4th lowest drop % in the nfl
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:46 pm to TigerBait1127
Who is the better player?
Player 1
Games Played: 86
Receptions: 449
YDS: 6,240
Avg.: 13.9
TD: 48
Fumbles: 5
Player 2:
GP: 112
Rec: 530
Yrds: 7,374
Avg.: 13.9
TD: 45
Fumbles: 8
Player 1
Games Played: 86
Receptions: 449
YDS: 6,240
Avg.: 13.9
TD: 48
Fumbles: 5
Player 2:
GP: 112
Rec: 530
Yrds: 7,374
Avg.: 13.9
TD: 45
Fumbles: 8
Posted on 2/6/12 at 2:47 pm to TigerBait1127
football analysis by stats only is pretty lame
If you watch them play game to game side by side I choose Colston. If you choose White then you lose some armchair GM credibility to me. That move prolly works in fantasy leagues though!
If you watch them play game to game side by side I choose Colston. If you choose White then you lose some armchair GM credibility to me. That move prolly works in fantasy leagues though!
Posted on 2/6/12 at 8:41 pm to Hung like Mule
Pretty disingenuous to hold Colston's 2008 against him when a hard hit broke his thumb, kept him out of action for a month or so, and when he returned he had to play with a cast on his hand.
Compare their season averages side by side:
Colston
75 REC 1040 YDS 8 TD 13.9 YPC
1 fumble every 90 touches
White
76 REC 1053 YDS 6 TD 13.9 YPC
1 fumble every 67 touches
Now factor in that one is a 1st round pick with good hands and one is a 7th round pick with great hands.
Now try to argue that White has much better stats.
Compare their season averages side by side:
Colston
75 REC 1040 YDS 8 TD 13.9 YPC
1 fumble every 90 touches
White
76 REC 1053 YDS 6 TD 13.9 YPC
1 fumble every 67 touches
Now factor in that one is a 1st round pick with good hands and one is a 7th round pick with great hands.
Now try to argue that White has much better stats.
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