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re: Drew Bree’s’ thoughts on the team & offense (Cam Jordan pod)

Posted on 10/26/23 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
11220 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 4:21 pm to
Pretty spot on. The offense looks much better when running the 2 minute offense.
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
3261 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 5:05 pm to
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It seems like Carr is the absolute worst type of QB to match with Carmichael.

Eventually we're going to stop blaming the coordinators he's had and start blaming Derek Carr. He's been a starter for damn near a decade at this point. Being dogshit in the redzone and a handful of "what in the actual frick" throws per game is nothing new for him.

Nobody has won anything with him and nobody will. Not a playoff game. Not anything. He's the common denominator.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 5:35 pm to
Lol if you don’t think Carmichael is part of the problem- I don’t know what to say. Yes Carr is bad but Carmichael is just as bad. We get it Carr has issues but acting like Carr is horrible under everyone isnt true. Under Gruden, he played pretty decent. Again not takinh blame off Carr but to act like Carmichael shouldn’t be blamed is a very dumb take.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16684 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 8:38 pm to
I’d still take him back at QB.

Even with a 25 yard max he could adjust every play from the line and he’s so in sync with Thomas/Kamara/Graham we’d still move the ball better than we do now.

Then switch to Taysom in the RZ.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34931 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 11:16 am to
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You mean you dont like the fade pattern 4 times from the 1?


Right. As much as Carr has looked like shite lately, the non use of taysom in the red zone is infuriating.

Also, why don't they go downfield to Shaheed and olave.
Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3475 posts
Posted on 10/27/23 at 7:26 pm to
Can they not bring Drew into the building to sit down with Pete and Carr and watch film and say ok

What are we seeing here?

Posted by Borntoboogy
Member since Jan 2023
1256 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 11:21 am to
Is the team broken. If so what can unify them. It all starts with leadership.
Owner
Coach
Team leader.(player)
Maybe we need Gayle to address the team.
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 3:03 pm to
Drew is confirming what everyone has been saying. This offense has the talent to win.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23536 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 3:35 pm to
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Can they not bring Drew into the building to sit down with Pete and Carr and watch film and say ok What are we seeing here?


JT O’Sullivan blasted Carr, Pete, and the offense on his QB School. He was very critical.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 4:29 pm to
I appreciate the film JT OSullivan provided which shows the issues with Carr and Carmicheal. But in all honesty, I could care less of O’Sullivan’s personal opinion about the situation. He may be right but hes honestly a nobody. His opinion in regards to value isn’t that high. Again I don’t think hes wrong but I’ m just saying not sure how much value his opinion holds. If Drew specifically says something, that’s different.
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
3261 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 4:37 pm to
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Lol if you don’t think Carmichael is part of the problem- I don’t know what to say. Yes Carr is bad but Carmichael is just as bad. We get it Carr has issues but acting like Carr is horrible under everyone isnt true. Under Gruden, he played pretty decent. Again not takinh blame off Carr but to act like Carmichael shouldn’t be blamed is a very dumb take.



Never said that. Read my post again.

I said that it's time we stop blaming coordinators for Derek Carr's performance. The things we see now have plagued him his whole career. His individual performance and dogshit decision making are on him.

If it's not the coordinators over his 9+ years of playing QB in the league, his fanboys find a way to blame injuries, blame defenses, blame head coaches. Anything to not say this guy is a flaming pile of dogshit.

I was telling you he was the white Aaron Brooks months ago. Nobody wanted to believe me.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 4:48 pm to
“I was telling you he was the white Aaron Brooks months ago. Nobody wanted to believe me.”

- ok man its been 3 weeks. You were right on certain things on Carr. But then you also went on some dumb Mac Jones rant and then asked people how your dick tasted. Even if you have valid points- the way you go about just being honest no one will want to listen to you.

I’m not saying Carr hasn’t been bad but Carmichael has to. So that has to be taken into account as well. You can’t just say Carr is the only reason this offense sucks and he is 100 % at fault. I think people are saying there are a multitude of factors- Carr sucking, Carmichael playcalling, Olave going half speed, everything matters. Again you lose credibility when you just go off on how crazy bad Carr is like he fricked your wife or something.
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
3261 posts
Posted on 10/28/23 at 5:12 pm to
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But then you also went on some dumb Mac Jones rant and then asked people how your dick tasted.

I'd take Mac Jones the player and Mac Jones's contract right now over Derek Carr. At this point, you know what Derek Carr is. He's had a plethora of damn good WR over his career, a lot of offensive weapons.

Mac Jones has had...yeah, nobody really. Jakobi Meyers is the best WR he's had in his 2+ year career. We've never seen Mac Jones with talent, but everybody knows he played at a super high level as a rookie in a super complicated offense without much talent. Every other young QB has had players put around them to succeed - not Mac. Tua got Tyreek and Waddle. Burrow got Higgins and Chase. Bills trade for Diggs to help Allen. Jaguars sign Kirk and trade for Ridley, draft Etienne.

Patriots draft day 3 WRs, sign a washed Zeke Elliot and some bum TE's, and you expect him to look great?

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Even if you have valid points- the way you go about just being honest no one will want to listen to you.

See, the things is, people can be ugly so I can be super ugly back. I'm petty, too. I flatly said Carr was a big mistake when he was in town at Ralph's on the Park and was then called a dumbass, don't know football, not a fan, etc. So now that the truth has reared its head - they get asked how my dick tastes.

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I’m not saying Carr hasn’t been bad but Carmichael has to. So that has to be taken into account as well. You can’t just say Carr is the only reason this offense sucks and he is 100 % at fault. I think people are saying there are a multitude of factors- Carr sucking, Carmichael playcalling, Olave going half speed, everything matters.

I agree with you, but you are taking me saying Carr is dogshit as absolving Carmichael and this staff. I hate them too. I'm on record saying anyone we have on offense doesn't matter because none of them are transcendent players.

ETA: Me, in July

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Again you lose credibility when you just go off on how crazy bad Carr is like he fricked your wife or something.

Being honest about how dogshit Carrbage is when I watched him put up Carrbage Time Stats for 9 years in OAK/LV is now seen as being incensed.

I can say Carr sucks and not be mad about it my guy. I think it's hilarious how things have turned out but I can't say I didn't see it coming.
This post was edited on 10/28/23 at 5:19 pm
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