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re: Draft Dart
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:13 pm to Townedrunkard
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:13 pm to Townedrunkard
7th round .
Posted on 3/26/25 at 10:21 am to BadatBourre
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Uh, quite a few reasons to like Dart. He's improved every single stat over the last 4 years.
Comp %, Yards, TD %, Yards Per Attempt, Yards Per Game, QBR, etc. All up every single year.
His best WR from 24? Tre Harris who played in 8 games and still led the team in Receptions and yards. 2nd Best? Jordan Watkins, who more than likely won't make a NFL Roster.
Yall tripping if you think Dart doesnt get drafted 1st Round.
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Posted on 3/26/25 at 12:57 pm to burke985
Not at number 9................
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:54 am to friendlyobservation
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And whoever drafts him is going to regret it -- especially if he gets pulled in the 1st. He's unbelievably average where he shined in Kiffin's system because he's a magician offensively with guys like him.
Just want to piggyback off your post & drop this in here.
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NFL comparison: Souped-up Christian Ponder
Dart's lack of a cannon and concerns over just how well he can process pro-style defenses will cap his upside until he proves otherwise. That doesn't mean he can't be a useful quarterback and a potential starter in the NFL within the next two seasons, but it would be for the best if he's given time to learn the game. If he can ascend, then his accuracy, anticipation and rushing skills could help him stay on the field for a while. As it stands now, he reminds me of a souped-up version of Christian Ponder when he was a prospect; Dart's better as a runner and more accurate, but has some work to do to learn the pro game.
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Advanced stats to know
When pressured last year, Dart completed 41 of 89 passes (46.1%) for 908 yards, four scores and three interceptions with 56 rushes and an insane 23.9% sack rate. The first thing opponents will do is blitz the snot out of him.
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Concerns
Threw at different arm angles, which was fine, but his release point was closer to his chest than his head, leading to nine passes batted down in 2024 (same as shorter passers Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel) and 20 over his three years at Ole Miss. Coaches could address this, but it might end up being a tendency.
Dart was able to make reads pre-snap but often made plays based on one read or a half-field read. There was some but not enough evidence to confidently suggest Dart could consistently process defensive coverage post-snap, nor was there enough evidence to show he could make full-field reads. These factors are common when a quarterback plays in a schemed-up college offense, and they're obviously critical for success in the NFL. However, it's not to say he can't make these reads, but it'll take effort from him and his coaches to become good at it. Additionally, Dart has played in a number of offenses in his life and managed to succeed in all of them, so there should be at least a little hope for improvement.
Definitely had bouts of locking in on one player before throwing. Can't get away with that in the pros.
Didn't take easy throws as often as he should have, often looking for the bigger play but resulting in missed opportunities. This figures to be an easy coaching point for Dart to learn.
When Dart struggled to make reads post-snap, or locked in on a player, or passed up easy throws, he naturally held the ball too long. Sometimes it worked out for him as he'd still complete passes, but in the pros that figures to mean more incompletions, sacks and interceptions. Again, this is a fixable issue.
Was definitely pressure sensitive, frequently opting for the escape hatch with his legs rather than sticking in a muddy pocket or behind the line of scrimmage. Didn't consistently keep his eyes downfield when on the move and frankly gave up too soon on pass plays once pressure arrived. This seemed to especially be a factor in the second halves of games.
Deeper throws tended to have a little too much air under them.
Had a track record of not being clutch late in games. Last year, his completion rate in the fourth quarter was 60%, worst of any quarter, with a 15% off-target rate. That was consistent over his three years at Ole Miss (60.1% completion rate, 12.4% off-target rate in the fourth quarter). It's also especially notable that in three years at Ole Miss and one year at USC, Dart threw zero game-winning touchdowns and led the Rebels to a game-winning score late in the fourth quarter twice in three years. Some of that is related to circumstance -- the Rebels blew out a lot of opponents -- but it's jarring to see that there's scant evidence of Dart playing great late, especially since there was evidence he made bad, rushed decisions late, some of which led to four interceptions in the fourth quarter last season (including two in a winnable game at Florida).
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Bottom line
Dart has too many questions to be considered a worthy first-rounder, but as Day 2 picks go, he should quickly find a home. Hopefully it's with a team with an older veteran starter who can give Dart the time he needs to learn the pro game before getting the keys to the offense in 2026. He's got a capable arm, very good mobility and potential as a processor, but his limitations keep his upside from ever being that of a top-10 passer. In fact, it wouldn't be a surprise if he had a long career as a quality backup.
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 7:09 am to BigBrod81
I just hate his completion percentage against any team that isn’t a scrub team. Don’t look at his overall completion percentage because it was trash against LSU, UGA, etc. yet he threw 80% vs some scrub college.
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 7:02 pm to burke985
Dart’s pocket presence is horrid, His deep ball is all that he has in his game that is truly impressive. His progression through reads are slow and if you take away his 1st two options, he’s going to take off and run. He’ll need 2-3 years (hopefully) before he develops, that is not what you want in a top ten pick at QB.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 7:43 pm to NOSA
He is but we shouldn’t take him at #9.
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