Draft approaching, revisit Mickey Loomis Trade History

2019:
• 2019 2nd(62nd) / 6th(202nd) / 2020 2nd(56th) to DOLPHINS for 2019 2nd(48th) (C-Eric McCoy) / 4th(116th) (later packaged in trade for CGJ)
o WIN.
o McCoy is a starter & top 5 center when healthy
• 2019 4th(116th) / 5th(116th) to JETS for 2019 4th(105th) (DB-Chauncey Gardner-Johnson)
o WIN.
o CGJ was a starter for several years
• LB-Vince Biegel to BILLS for LB-Kiko Alonso
o WIN.
o Kiko was an immediate starter

2018:
• 2018 1st(27th) / 5th(147th) / 2019 1st(30th) to PACKERS for 1st(14th) (DT-Marcus Davenport)
o LOSE.
o Davenport flashed but couldn’t stay healthy or consistent
• 2019 3rd(93rd) to VIKINGS for QB-Teddy Bridgewater / 2019 6th(177th) (S-Saquan Hampton)
o WIN.
o Teddy was a great QB2 & locker room guy that made several starts
o Hampton played a little on STs
• DL-Devaroe Lawrence to BROWNS for 2019 7th(231st) (TE-Alize Mack)
o LOSS
o Lawrence was a contributor and didn’t cost too much
o Mack never amounted to anything
• 2019 4th(132nd) / 7th(238th) to GIANTS for CB-Eli Apple
o WIN.
o Apple started a few years for us

2017:
• WR-Brandin Cooks / 2027 4th(118th) to the PATRIOTS for 2017 1st (OT-Ryan Ramzyck) / 3rd (DE-Trey Hendrickson)
o WIN.
o Ramzyck was an immediate starter & became an all-pro
o Hendrickson contributed/started and played well for years
• 2017 7th(229th) / 2018 2nd(59th) to REDSKINS for 2017 3rd(67th) (RB-Alviin Kamara)
o WIN.
o Kamara was a top back in the league for years
• 2019 7th to the EAGLES for LS-Jon Dorenbros
o We got the pick back after our team doctors found medical issues on Dorenbros
• RB-Adrian Peterson to the CARDINALS for conditional 6th (DB-Kamrin Moore)
o WIN.
o Moore didn’t do much for us but at least we got something in return for Peterson after it was obvious he was not a good fit for our O
• LB-Stephone Anthony to the DOLPHINS for 5th(147th) (Packaged pick for Davenport)
o WIN.
o Getting anything in return for Anthony was a win. What we did with it after was a loss

2016:
• 2016 3rd(78th) / 4th(112th) to PATRIOTS for 2016 2nd(61st) (S-Vonn Bell)
o WIN-WIN.
o Bell was a starter for several years
• 2016 5th(152nd) / 2017 5th(154th) to REDSKINS for 4th (DT-David Onyemata)
o WIN.
o Onyemata was a starter for several years
• 2017 conditional 7th (did not convey) to DOLPHINS for DE-Chris McCain

2015:
• TE-Jimmy Graham / 2015 4th(112th) to SEAHAWKS for C-Max Unger / 1st (LB-Stephone Anthony)
o WIN.
o We couldn’t afford Graham & his play dropped after leaving NOLA
o Unger anchored our line for years.
o Spending the 1st on Anthony was a miss but still was a great value on the surface.
• WR-Kenny Stills to DOLPHINS for LB-Dannell Ellerbe / 2015 3rd(78th) (DB-P.J. Williams)
o WIN.
o Stills was a 5th that we turned into a 3rd & and a starting LB.
o Ellerbe was an immediate starter and impact player. Unfortunately he couldn’t stay too healthy. #BlessedToSeeAnotherDay
o PJ Williams being a contributor/starter for years
• 2015 6th(187th) / 2016 6th(187th) to REDSKINS for 2015 5th(167th) (CB-Damian Swann)
o WIN.
o Swann was developing nicely & making plays until a concussion shortened his career
• G-Ben Grubbs to CHIEFS for 5th (DT-Tyeler Davison)
o WIN.
o Grubbs play declined & didn’t match his salary at that point with us and completely fell off with KC.
o Davison was a solid contributor & part time starter

2014:
• Darren Sproles to EAGLES for 5th (LB-Ronald Powell)
o LOSS. But not by too much factoring contract.
o Sproles played 6 more seasons, but only 2 of those did he get close to matching production from Saints. Saints 2014 RBs were Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson & Pierre Thomas.
o Powell played 14 games as a rookie for us mostly on STs then released the following season and bounced around the league on practice squads for a few years. He died unexpectedly in 2024, though cause of death unclear.
• 1st(27th) / 3rd(#91st) to CARDINALS for 2014 1st(20th) (WR-Brandin Cooks)
o WIN.
o Cooks was worthy of a 1st rd pick putting up 2-1,000 yard seasons. In 3 years with NO he totaled 215rec, 2,861yrd, 20tds

2013:
• RB-Chris Ivory to JETS for 2013 4th(106th) (later packaged in John Jenkins trade)
o WASH.
o Turning a UDFA into a 4th after 3 injury plagued seasons is a win itself but I graded it “wash” because his performance increased after leaving us.
? Played 3 seasons for NO totaling 5.1ypc, 1,307yrd, 8td Ivory then played 3 seasons for the Jets totaling 4.3ypc, 2,724yrd, 16td.
• 2013 4th(106th) / 4th(109th) to DOLPHINS for 2013 3rd(82nd) (DT-John Jenkins)
o WASH.
o Jenkins was an immediate contributor then after rookie season turned starter. Never made a huge impact though.
• 2014 7th(242nd) to 49ers for LB-Parys Haralson
o WIN
o Haralson was a rotational piece playing significant snaps with us for 2 seasons

2012:
• 2013 7th(220th) to SEAHAWKS for LB-Barrett Rudd
o WIN.
o Ruud played a role and contributed, for only a 7th

2011:
• 2011 2nd(56th) / 2012 1st(27th) to PATRIOTS for 1st(28th) (RB-Mark Ingram)
o WIN.
o Ingram took a while to get going but became a key piece of the offense and locker room.
• RB-Reggie Bush / 2012 6th(196th) to DOLPHINS for S-Jonathan Amaya / 2012 6th(179th) (OT-Andrew Tiller)
o WIN-WIN.
o Instead of giving Bush a larger contract we instead signed Sproles.
o Amaya played some STs but didn’t do much
o Tiller was cut before regular season

2010:
• 2010 4th(130th) / 2010 6th(201st) to CARDINALS for 2010 4th(123rd) (DT-Al Woods)
o WASH
o Woods didn’t make the Saints roster but it only cost a 6th. Tricky to grade as we cut him after camp and he bounced around the league on several practice squads for 6 years before finally being a contributor then eventual starter and having a 12 year NFL career
• 2011 4th(121st) to JAGUARS for 2010 5th(158th) (C-Matt Tennant)
o LOSS
o Tennant never played a regular season snap for us and only lasted 2 seasons. He was subsequently signed by Patriots & Eagles but was out of the league before start of 2013 season.
• T-Jammal Brown / 2011 5th(155th) to REDSKINS for 2011 3rd(72nd) (LB-Martez Wilson)
o WASH
o Brown’s play had declined some with us plus he was due for a contract extension. He played okay in 2010 & part of 2011 for Washington before a hip injury cut the season short and ultimately ended his career.
o Wilson flashed but never panned out and was cut after 2 seasons

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• 2022 1st(16th) / 3rd(98th) / 4th(120th) to COMMANDERS for 2022 1st(11th) (WR-Chris Olave)
o LOSS
o Olave has been very good when healthy, but even then not worth all what was given up for him

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Cannot agree with this at all. He was a top 16 receiver his first 2 years, and a top 8 receiver last year. The 3rd and the 4th aren't premium picks, and while it always sucks to lose picks, the guy they drafted was a great one (despite what some fans think).

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2022 3rd(80th) / 2023 6th(188th) to TEXANS for CB-Bradley Roby o WIN-WIN. o Roby was a solid nickel for a few years

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I disagree with this, 3rd was an overpay. Especially for how Roby played. Loomis had to overpay for them to eat salary b/c of our cap situation.

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This was serious work to put this together. I like having objective facts to inform opinions. Whether a trade was a win or loss is subjective, but looking at what happened w picks is objective

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Same. When trading for picks I try to look at value first to grade, then who we selected with said picks or how we may have packaged them for another trade. Then grade it overall.

Similarly with trading for a player. If said player is an immediate starter for us then that helps the grade even if he didn't perform well since in theory as a starter he did improve us. But then also factor in how they performed to grade it overall.

For picks we traded away I just look at the value, not who the other team selected since that's irrelevant.
For players we traded away I do factor in their performance on the next team to an extent.

Something tells me that the Saints will buy Seattle's first pick.. What they will pay is.. I have no idea...