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re: Check out the weights on the Saints 1967 Opening Day Roster

Posted on 11/8/13 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 6:48 pm to
Who is that? Is that you?
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 6:52 pm to
I'm flattered, but no. That's Preston J. Gary Jr. son.
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:04 pm to
OH! I don't think I've ever seen a picture of him.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:22 pm to
You like his work?
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:37 pm to
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You like his work?


When I get a chance to read it. He writes for the Chronicle doesn't he?
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:39 pm to
Don't read his stuff. I was just joking around. I couldn't stand looking at his dumb face anymore.
This post was edited on 11/9/13 at 10:31 am
Posted by Meateye
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:48 pm to
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Don't read his stuff. I was just joking around. I couldn't looking at his dumb face anymore.


Oh well he usually writes good stuff.
Posted by hellsu
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:11 pm to
Doug Atkins 6'7" 270
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 9:34 am to
quote:

A big part of the injuries IMO.


It's the sobering truth. The real problem is that there may very well be no solution.

Players' physiques are capable of creating LOTS more kinetic energy than before, but, the human brain has NOT increased its capacity to endure that energy.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 9:40 am to
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 9:41 am to
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Oh well he usually writes good stuff.


Ban
Posted by blueslover
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 10:04 am to
Big Doug!

How many are willing to admit they didn't know his number is retired by the Saints?



On the nfl network show Top 10 Pass Rushers of all time he was voted #9 HERE
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 10:37 am to
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How many are willing to admit they didn't know his number is retired by the Saints?
I knew it because I was around back then. I must have been about 15 when Atkins retired. He was an awesome pass rusher, the best the Saints have ever had from the DE position IMO. Fwiw, the Saints also retired Jim Taylor's #31 for a time, but eventually brought it back.

On another subject, for some reason Jake Kupp is not on that roster I linked, but the starting interior of the OL that year, from left to right, was Jake Kupp, Joe Wendryhoski, and Del Williams. All three were listed at 245 pounds. Hard to believe.
Posted by blueslover
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 1:00 pm to
The Saints tried to start a franchise with more veterans to try and win now than any other team before them. Unfortunately, with no free agency it was a doomed strategy. If there would have been free agency they might have been in the playoffs in the just a few years (like the Jags & Panthers with free agency).

Atkins wasn't the only oldster that still had some miles left...

Dave Whitsell came in at age 31 and led the NFL in INTs with 10 in 1967. 19 in his last 3 years on the Saints.



After his retirement from football he became a real estate investor. He was also a member of the National Football League Retired Players Association and the Kenner North Kiwanis Club. He was inducted into the Western Michigan Hall of Fame in 1989 and the New Orleans Saints Hall of Fame in 1996. He died from cancer.

buried in kennah bra
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 2:47 pm to
Whitsell was an excellent player. Probably more of a natural FS than a CB, but he was a baller. He made the Pr-Bowl that first year. I don't remember for sure, but he was probably our only pro bowl player that year. I know Jake Kupp made the squad one year.


ETA: Thanks for the link to Whitsell's burial place at Lake Lawn in Metarie. Both of my parents are buried there as well. I'll have to look for his vault next time I'm there.
This post was edited on 11/9/13 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 4:11 pm to
Yeah, the weight difference has been crazy.
My dad played NT in college at Arkansas State and was only 250.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 11:26 pm to
Yea its nuts. My pops took my mom to new Orleans for their honeymoon. They went to your the stadium as it just opened. There were no tours but the lady said to go walk around and if anyone stopped them then tell them you played here the night before. Dad was 6'8" and 315... hewas bigger than most of the team that did play it was neat. They got to go all over the dome.
Posted by dulargetiger
Theriot, LA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 11:27 am to
The Big Cat Ernie Ladd was about 6'9 and 320 pounds and Buck Buchanan was 6'7 and 286. Rookie Bubba Smith was 6'7 and 295. Atkins was next.
Posted by Curt
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 6:05 pm to
who was the def. lineman we traded our first round pick for during the early years?
Posted by dulargetiger
Theriot, LA
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 6:20 pm to
I think we got Gary Cuozzo from Baltimore and they got Bubba with the first round pick.
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