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re: Carr is currently the #4 qb in rating in the league.

Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:27 pm to
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It’s pretty clear which of the two of us is overly emotional about Derek Carr.


Silly me I assumed you meant actually meant playing in playoff games. Because technically I wasn’t wrong in saying Carr is 0-1. But sure go ahead put that winning season where he got injured for support of Carr- doesn’t change much. Still a losing qb in the other 5 seasons.

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The rookie QB drafted in the 2nd round didn’t save the coach who won 11 games in 3 seasons? Shocker!


How about a 33 year old QB who’s played in one playoff game that he lost gets him fired again! SHOCKER!

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It’s pretty clear which of the two of us is overly emotional about Derek Carr.


You literally have called me emotional in every post. Again great job gas lighting! Is this your way to win discussions when facts arent in your favor? The response of this will be another posts taunting Im “emotional” and disregarding the facts.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
11911 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:30 pm to
So overall, PFF has him 3rd, passer rating has him 4th, and QBR has him 8th. That's pretty good, eh?
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:30 pm to
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You literally have called me emotional in every post.


You clearly are emotional, or deranged. Either one works.

Look no further than this mentally unstable gem for proof:

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How about a 33 year old QB who’s played in one playoff game that he lost gets him fired again! SHOCKER!
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:31 pm to
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You clearly are emotional, or deranged. Either one works.


Serial gaslighter hahahaha

And ignored all the facts I listed.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:33 pm to
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Look no further than this mentally unstable gem for proof: quote: How about a 33 year old QB who’s played in one playoff game that he lost gets him fired again! SHOCKER!


Again show me where any of the facts here are untrue. But continue with your gaslighting ways.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:34 pm to
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Again show me where any of the facts here are untrue. But continue with your gaslighting ways.


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How about a 33 year old QB who’s played in one playoff game that he lost gets him fired again!


This is not a fact. You seem to be unraveling.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:41 pm to
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So overall, PFF has him 3rd, passer rating has him 4th, and QBR has him 8th. That's pretty good, eh?


The Ringer has him 21st, cbs sports 20th and nfl.com has him 20th.

Honestly asking you dont find it strange the disparity betwen his statistical ranking and how he is viewed by other analysts?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:42 pm to
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This is not a fact. You seem to be unraveling.


Is carr not 33? Did he not play in one playoff game that he lost? Did DA not get fired for the second time with Carr as his QB?

Please show me how these are not facts.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:48 pm to
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Is carr not 33? Did he not play in one playoff game that he lost? Did DA not get fired for the second time with Carr as his QB?


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How about a 33 year old QB who’s played in one playoff game that he lost gets him fired again! SHOCKER!


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A guy he chose to sign with. A guy he got fired in his rookie year.


You didn’t say he was the QB when he got fired. You said he was the reason that he got fired. You said for both the Raiders and the Saints. That is simply untrue.

The way you phrase things matters. You’d realize that if you weren’t losing your mind right now.

Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73357 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:52 pm to
You dont realize these stats illustrate the knock on Carr

Would you trade his “overall numbers” for consistency and wins?

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PFF has him 3rd


Average of his 4 best games - 87.05
Average of his 4 worst games- 64.15

87.05 would be third best, where he currently sits in their season long list.

64.15 would rank him as the 32nd best qualified QB, behind Caleb Williams and ahead of Deshaun Watson. There are only 32 teams in the league


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passer rating has him 4th


Wins
142.5 rating vs CAR (3-7)
125 rating vs DAL (3-7)
126.9 rating vs ATL (6-5)
129.6 rating vs CLE (2-8)

Losses
69.1 rating vs PHI (8-2)
82.8 rating vs ATL (6-5)
89.9 rating vs KC (9-1)
92.9 rating vs CAR (3-7)


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QBR has him 8th.


His season long QBR is 62.1. He has three games that are better than his season average

Do we know how averages work?

78.1 vs CAR
99.2 vs DAL
64.8 vs KC


49.8 vs PHI
39.9 vs ATL
51.2 vs CAR
49.7 vs CAR
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:53 pm to
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You didn’t say he was the QB when he got fired. You said he was the reason that he got fired. You said for both the Raiders and the Saints. That is simply untrue.


I didn’t say he was the SOLE reason he got fired. But he was part of the reason as was the rest of the team. Thats not an untrue statement but you may read it as such.

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The way you phrase things matters.


Reading comprehension also matters. You are assuming a lot from my statements.

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You’d realize that if you weren’t losing your mind right now.


Trying to win another argument by gaslighting the opposing argument. Not really working but great job in trying though.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:54 pm to
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I didn’t say he was the SOLE reason he got fired. But he was part of the reason as was the rest of the team. Thats not an untrue statement but you may read it as such.




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Reading comprehension also matters. You are assuming a lot from my statements.


I’m reading your statements as they are. Not my problem that you’re too angry to realize what you’re posting.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
11911 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:57 pm to
I thought it was the pro-Carr guys that made the excuses. The overall rankings are what they are.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 1:58 pm to
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I’m reading your statements as they are. Not my problem that you’re too angry to realize what you’re posting.


Your whole retort is Im angry or emotional based on what I write lol

You do realize you’re constantly gaslighting my emotional state(which you have no idea of) to win an argument. Which you still can’t win lol

Again response will be a “gaslighting” comment- oh hes so emotional, or angry, or he hates Carr lol. I’m literally laughing at this.

Do you gaslight every argument. I would love to see your post history- this is probably a common theme.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 1:59 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Do you gaslight every argument. I would love to see your post history- this is probably a common theme.


My post history is one click away. I usually tell people they’re melting when they’re, well, melting.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Average of his 4 best games - 87.05
Average of his 4 worst games- 64.15


4 best - 89.9
4 worst - 46.2

That is Josh Allen.


4 best - 91.5
4 worst - 55.9

Lamar.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:14 pm to
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quote: No I’ll post what I want. Who tf are you to tell me what can or can’t post? It’s very true. Ole Miss overall recruiting rankings at 17 this year. LSU is 9th. This includes recruiting and portal. This is FACTS! Cry about it. I’m not the one crying in this thread


Yup you’re right. You’re a serial gaslighter. You like to tell other posters that they’re over emotional or angry first so somehow your post or opinion seems more valid. For instance telling people they’re melting is funny when you have constantly responded to everyone of my posts. And want posters here to assume you’re the calm one.

No offense to gender but this type of behavior usually, but not always, is relegated to females.(again assuming your male but could be wrong).Although many males have adopted this behavior online such as yourself- to help sway public opinion to your argument or stance. Meaning you have some very female tendencies- not there is anything wrong with that. You may think that’s gaslighting but I dont judge you on your gender or your emotional state.

This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:17 pm to
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Yup you’re right. You’re a serial gaslighter. You like to tell other posters that they’re over emotional or angry first so somehow your post or opinion seems more valid.


Yes that guy was melting because LSU didn’t hire Lane Kiffin.



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No offense to gender but this type of behavior usually, but not always, is relegated to females.


I feel the same exact way about you making shite up to win an argument.

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Although many males have adopted this behavior online such as yourself- to help sway public opinion to your argument or stance. Meaning you have some very female tendencies- not there is anything wrong with that. You may think that’s gaslighting but I dont judge you on your gender or your emotional state.


You’ve gone nuclear melt. Good Lord.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73357 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:19 pm to
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I thought it was the pro-Carr guys that made the excuses. The overall rankings are what they are.


when the stats you choose gets turned on you 101

I am making excuses for Carr being good some games and bad some games as back by statistics and wins and losses. Hands up, you got me
Posted by JepsenAbrams
Member since Sep 2024
105 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:21 pm to
Carr plays things safe mostly. He seems to throw the underneath stuff with some deep balls sprinkled in. He doesn't do intermediate that much, but he also doesn't put the ball in harms way that often.
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