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re: Can the Saints D Be Salvaged (ESPN Insider)

Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:52 am to
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:52 am to
A DL analysis without mentioning Cam Jordan.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:52 am to
INSIDER

I can remember dial-up modems too
Posted by jamsmiley
Zachary La
Member since Nov 2008
632 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

A DL analysis without mentioning Cam Jordan.


it does mention him, i did not include everything.Overall all the information was basically obvious
Posted by ShlikStyck
Bum F**k Egypt
Member since Jan 2005
3786 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 12:36 pm to
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Vaccaro


Where the hell did this guy go? 1 little injury and poof he's a cream puff
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 12:49 pm to
Vaccaro has been very solid in both games so far. Not sure what you're seeing.

Phillips also looked way better than Bush, minus the two bad angles he took when the underneath defender let his guy go.

I'd like to see a combo of Byrd, Phillips, and Vaccaro with Byrd playing deep and Phillips and Vaccaro roaming around.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14097 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 3:30 pm to
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Dont forget swann!


I've been impressed by Swann so far. Always seems to be in the right place and is a sure tackler.
Posted by Dunk47
Member since Jan 2014
1059 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 4:31 pm to
The secondary is getting a bad rap. Take away the penalties and you have a young, still building chemistry, unit that hasn't given up an obscene amount of passing yards. They tackle well and are around the ball. They clean up those penalties and get a little more game experience and they should be pretty solid.
The Defense is not the problem hack writers gonna hack
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33734 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 7:23 pm to
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Linebacker
You knew the Saints were going to be in trouble at outside linebacker after they released stud pass-rusher Junior Galette due to off-field concerns. At this point in his career, David Hawthorne is just a two-down player who brings very little playmaking ability off the edge


so no mention of Kikaha or Anthony? Kikaha has forced a few turnovers already... but no praise... awesome.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71556 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 7:31 pm to
He didn't paste it all because they're both mentioned in the article I'm seeing.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24833 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 8:39 pm to
If we stay healthy, this defense will get better as the season progresses. Anthony, Breaux, Swann, and Kikaha will get better. Our problem is finding a coverage LBer (Ellerbe if he can ever get healthy), and finding a legit CB to pair with Browner (Westbank if he can get healthy). Jenkins has played really well in the middle, and Richardson has done a pretty damn good job when in there. Our problem is health and youth.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:11 pm to
Anthony is a legit cover LB and has been doing a fine job so far. We could use another one though (and Ellerbe could do it). But the drought of not having even one since we had a healthy Vilma is over.
Posted by KindaRaw
Member since Jun 2014
3963 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:17 pm to
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Phillips also looked way better than Bush

Bush is a bum. He has literally done nothing for us.

Vacarro was the reason for Edebali's sack against TB. Vacarro rushed with Kikaha. Kikaha took a block, and that led to Vacarro rushing the QB up to Edebali.



Vacarro also made a few good plays in coverage. So far, he's looked much better than last year. Hopefully he doesn't get anymore of those bogus roughing the passer penalties anymore.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:50 pm to
Yeah Vaccaro has looked real good so far. I think the injuries really bothered him last year. This year he is back to flying around and they are putting him in good positions.

shite once we get Byrd, Lewis, and Ellerbe back our defense could actually be good. The biggest issue so far has been the secondary penalties and Lewis knows how to avoid those. I think we have a chance to get back to 2013 form.

The offense on the other hand...
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:55 pm to
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The offense on the other hand..
Well, we're relying on receivers who just started in the NFL.

I don't care that they're UDFA's.
There's no reason to think Snead and Coleman won't improve as the season rolls on.



As for the defense, I've been encouraged.
Also, I'm gonna be looking for sources of pass rush in unexpected places.
Like Gwacham.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:06 pm to
I don't see the receivers as the issue. They each had at least three catches in the TB game.

It's way more the play calling, the run blocking and/or run calls that don't work, and Brees not being decisive (though it was hard to tell how much that was corrected or not game one to game two with Brees under heavy pressure against TB).

The pieces are working fine but we aren't using them well.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71556 posts
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:10 pm to
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The pieces are working fine

Posted by JackVincennes
NOLA
Member since Jan 2014
3897 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 1:21 pm to
I wonder if our Offensive Guards can be salvaged? I remember wondering about that leading into the off season and draft. I guess it's not a big deal since we have a tall, young, mobile QB.
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