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Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:30 pm to 3PieceSpicy
It would be Penix or JD5 if I was making the choice.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:46 pm to DBG
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they forget that hero ball antics like Williams routinely pulls can be really detrimental
he has 13INTS in 914 pass attempts
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:52 pm to stopitnow1
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Penix or JD5
have played 11 CFB seasons between themselves
they should be better than everyone
They've played against guys who are already on their 2nd contract in the NFL.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:03 pm to landrywasbeast30
Yo Jackass, I was probably the only LSU fan that was saying Burrow was going to be an NFL level QB during his Jr Year. So you bringing him up to me and acting like it’s relevant to this Caleb argument is absurd.
Again, my Caleb evaluation has nothing to do with last night. It’s the full body of work. Last night was simply a culmination of things that have been building with him for a long time.
Watch the games, baw. I don’t need to be lectured about who is a good QB and who isn’t. It’s always been pretty obvious to me.
Shedeur and Penix are 100% better prospects than Caleb. And Jayden Daniels is a better prospect than Caleb in a few different ways. Those 2 might be about even with all things considered.
Team’s thinking drafting Caleb is going to save them are sorely mistaken. If he goes to the wrong team/coach, he will be out of the league with swiftness.
Again, my Caleb evaluation has nothing to do with last night. It’s the full body of work. Last night was simply a culmination of things that have been building with him for a long time.
Watch the games, baw. I don’t need to be lectured about who is a good QB and who isn’t. It’s always been pretty obvious to me.
Shedeur and Penix are 100% better prospects than Caleb. And Jayden Daniels is a better prospect than Caleb in a few different ways. Those 2 might be about even with all things considered.
Team’s thinking drafting Caleb is going to save them are sorely mistaken. If he goes to the wrong team/coach, he will be out of the league with swiftness.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:07 pm to msstate7
Williams is an emotional attention whore who is self absorbed and highly talented. Watching his antics on the sidelines last night showed he is a me first guy.
Sanders loves his attention but seems less emotional.
Sanders loves his attention but seems less emotional.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:32 am to 3PieceSpicy
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Again, my Caleb evaluation has nothing to do with last night. It’s the full body of work. Last night was simply a culmination of things that have been building with him for a long time.
What are other specific things in his body of work that you have seen & don’t like
Posted on 10/21/23 at 9:31 pm to Lester Earl
Williams down 2 TDs in the 3rd. He's so awesome
Posted on 10/21/23 at 10:28 pm to msstate7
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Williams down 2 TDs in the 3rd. He's so awesome
Leads 2 scoring drives in the last 3 minutes, watches defense blow it
Posted on 10/21/23 at 10:40 pm to H-Town Tiger
He had no passing TDs the entire game. Dude is a fraud.
Posted on 10/21/23 at 10:47 pm to MrJimBeam
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Dude is a fraud.
Please enlighten us with your vast scouting knowledge with some examples
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:23 am to Lester Earl
I just saw this, but it’s been quite obvious for a long time that he has an extremely limited ability to read a defense.
Intangibles matter as well. I have him marked in my notebook as having a bottom 25% ile intangible grade when comparing him to the last 250 starting QB’s in the NFL. He’s essentially bigger Kyler Murray in a ton of ways and it’s hardly a guarantee that he will be as good of an NFL QB as Kyler Murray.
He has too many weaknesses and red flags to go #1. He’s a 2nd or 3rd rd prospect if people evaluate everything about him. Arm talent and movement is top tier, but it takes a lot more than that to be a franchise QB.
Intangibles matter as well. I have him marked in my notebook as having a bottom 25% ile intangible grade when comparing him to the last 250 starting QB’s in the NFL. He’s essentially bigger Kyler Murray in a ton of ways and it’s hardly a guarantee that he will be as good of an NFL QB as Kyler Murray.
He has too many weaknesses and red flags to go #1. He’s a 2nd or 3rd rd prospect if people evaluate everything about him. Arm talent and movement is top tier, but it takes a lot more than that to be a franchise QB.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:26 am to DBG
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Caleb Williams is awesome, but the NFL and its nerd media twitter are so enamored with buzz words like “off platform” and “out of structure” they forget that hero ball antics like Williams routinely pulls can be really detrimental
Ding ding ding!
No better example of this overblown “out of structure/off platform” bullshite than the Zach Wilson pro day. You couldn’t go on any sports media website or forum without seeing the clip of him rolling out and throwing across his body 60 yards or whatever, a throw that he would never be called upon to make in a real game.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 6:03 am to 3PieceSpicy
I think he's a really good prospect, but him wanting part ownership of the team that drafts him just makes me detest the guy. He isn't Payton manning or Andrew luck coming out of college.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 6:28 pm to msstate7
Let’s be real. He isn’t even Burrow or T Law Coming out of college. Dude really has an inflated view of himself if that is a real ask from him.
That’s like Tom Brady level perks and I’m not certain that he ever even got that.
Dude’s out here asking for what Messi got to go to Inter Miami.
That’s like Tom Brady level perks and I’m not certain that he ever even got that.
Dude’s out here asking for what Messi got to go to Inter Miami.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:47 pm to 3PieceSpicy
Jayden is your best bet
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