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re: Board favorite Jalen Milroe had "impressive" private workout with Saints, Browns
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:17 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:17 am to Fun Bunch
I'm coming around on Milroe a bit, but still wouldn't want to spend a 1st or 2nd round pick on him. Even an early 3rd would be a bit too spicy for me, but I'd let it slide if Kellen has a vision for him. Having an athlete like him at QB could be fun. If he learns to pass - watch out. And by all reports he's a great kid, which is not the case with Anthony Richardson. I think of him as a more athletic Jalen Hurts who can't throw the ball as well.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:13 am to dcw7g
I’d absolutely do it for a 3rd simply to use him as a backfield weapon. I’d imagine KM would look to implement some version of the tush push after seeing how automatic it was.
Throw in the off chance that you could possibly develop him into more and I think it wouldn’t be too steep. But I’d much rather him than some other project qb due to the running package floor.
Throw in the off chance that you could possibly develop him into more and I think it wouldn’t be too steep. But I’d much rather him than some other project qb due to the running package floor.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 10:15 am
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:32 am to St Augustine
Just to be clear, I am not a Milroe fan as a professional QB at all. I just do not see it, the guy can't throw for shite and absolutely melted any time he got pressured.
But he is an ultra athlete and I guess you just never know.
If they pick him 3rd round and beyond, I can live with it, even if I am very skeptical. See what happens in a year or three (which is what should have happened with Richardson).
If he's picked in the top 2 rounds...no.
But he is an ultra athlete and I guess you just never know.
If they pick him 3rd round and beyond, I can live with it, even if I am very skeptical. See what happens in a year or three (which is what should have happened with Richardson).
If he's picked in the top 2 rounds...no.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:44 am to Fun Bunch
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the guy can't throw for shite
i don't think this is a very fair statement at all. i think he needs work with technique and feetwork maybe some mechanical things on top of developing how to learn to read defenses etc but to see he doesn't have skills as a passer is far beyond not true.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:50 am to Chad504boy
somehting about Saints and Alabama... my god.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:08 am to Chad504boy
Your description of his skills makes him sound like he really could make it as a QB!
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:13 am to Chad504boy
I think you misunderstand me.
His arm strength seems fine.
its everything else about him as a passer that I do not like.
His arm strength seems fine.
its everything else about him as a passer that I do not like.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:24 am to Fun Bunch
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His arm strength seems fine.
i'm not. he has a passing skiillset beyond just arm strength. if his skillset as a passer didn't need refining and development, he would be 1.1. Jets, Giants, Steelers, Browns, Rams and others must be real options for him to be at draft night. Oh, Saints had impressive workout.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 12:35 pm to Chad504boy
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has a passing skiillset beyond just arm strength.
Anyone who watched a ton of Alabama games the last 2 years under Milroe, saw he struggled with short & intermediate throws. Even checkdowns were a problem at times when he would air mail passes over the RB's head.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 1:36 pm to BigBrod81
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he struggled with short & intermediate throws. Even checkdowns were a problem at times when he would air mail passes over the RB's head.
I trust our offensive staff can fix such problems and the the ceiling is the sky and the sky is the moon
Posted on 4/11/25 at 1:38 pm to Chad504boy
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Threw five touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 2024 SEC play.
Hurried and lacking rhythm when working from the pocket.
Processing and decision-making are troubling at times.
Struggles to make anticipatory throws.
Success rate plummets when forced to come off primary option.
Fires hard-to-catch rockets at underneath targets.
Sails deep-outs and forces crossing routes to break stride to catch it.
Slow to feel mounting pressure and takes too many sacks.
Inconsistent trajectory on intermediate and deep-touch throws.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 1:56 pm to Fun Bunch
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Threw five touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 2024 SEC play.
Hurried and lacking rhythm when working from the pocket.
Processing and decision-making are troubling at times.
Struggles to make anticipatory throws.
Success rate plummets when forced to come off primary option.
Fires hard-to-catch rockets at underneath targets.
Sails deep-outs and forces crossing routes to break stride to catch it.
Slow to feel mounting pressure and takes too many sacks.
Inconsistent trajectory on intermediate and deep-touch throws.
i've conceded passing and mechanical issues. The difficult part is trying to figure out how much a staff believes they can fix certain things and take the very good with some flaws. He does have a great ability to throw the ball though. He is a great character kid that i think will put the work in. Its a risk for sure.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 2:56 pm to Fun Bunch
The issue with Milroe is that he does not always work well within a system.
He has great upside but his downside is very low. His bad performances are very bad.
He’s a big risk
He has great upside but his downside is very low. His bad performances are very bad.
He’s a big risk
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:32 pm to Chad504boy
Milroe wasn't THAT bad of a passer up until the UT game last season. From then on he was absolutely dogshit. Idk what happened but his passing took a nosedive and never really recovered.
But passing isn't the only problem. He is awful in the pocket. Gets spooked too easily, holds onto the ball too long, doesn't step up, has no idea where the soft spots are. And for how athletic he is he is really bad at escaping the pocket.
I feel like these NFL folks hyping him up are focusing way too much on what he did against UGA and LSU, and arent watching any of his bad games.That's the only way I can make sense of it.
But passing isn't the only problem. He is awful in the pocket. Gets spooked too easily, holds onto the ball too long, doesn't step up, has no idea where the soft spots are. And for how athletic he is he is really bad at escaping the pocket.
I feel like these NFL folks hyping him up are focusing way too much on what he did against UGA and LSU, and arent watching any of his bad games.That's the only way I can make sense of it.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:36 pm to Chad504boy
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I trust our offensive staff can fix such problems
You can't fix the yips which he seems to have on short throws. He reminds me a lot of the pitcher Jon Lester. Lester could pitch from the mound without a problem yet any bunts or come backers to the mound was an adventure for him throwing to first base.
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the ceiling is the sky and the sky is the moon
Milroe is not the athlete people keep trying to make him out to be. He's not close to being a better athlete than Taysom Hill. He doesn't run with power & usually goes down with first contact. He's not going to make defenders miss in space by juking anyone.
Is he fast? Yes he is. Yet the majority of his designed runs at Alabama were well blocked plays where he was able to get to the second level untouched & use to his speed to separate from defenders. When those plays weren't well blocked he struggled. He's not a guy who will consistently get positive yardage on a designed run if it isn't well blocked. His big scramble runs came from undisciplined pass rushers getting out of the rush lines.
Defenses that schemed well, had good athletes & that stayed disciplined gave Milroe fits. People want to point at the UGA game as a great performance against a good defense but UGA 2024 defense was nowhere close to being as good as UGA defenses in previous seasons. Both games against Michigan are good indicators as to what Milroe would look like in the NFL. Both of those performances were butt ugly for Milroe in both passing & rushing.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:42 pm to Chad504boy
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He does have a great ability to throw the ball though.
Having a strong arm doesn’t equal having a great ability to throw the ball especially when he struggles with so many other aspects of passing.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 6:49 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I feel like these NFL folks hyping him up are focusing way too much on what he did against UGA and LSU, and arent watching any of his bad games.That's the only way I can make sense of it.
The entire draft season has become a big blow job fest for the draftees. All the media talk is just one big suck off fest. None of the analysts seemingly ever wants to discuss flaws in player's games. The hype up every player to fans like every player in the draft is a future Hall of Famer. The hype around Anthony Richardson was ridiculous & some of the conversations concerning Milroe are equally ridiculous.
Posted on 4/11/25 at 7:03 pm to whatiknowsofar
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I swear to frick
What the frick does this frickin mean?
Posted on 4/11/25 at 8:41 pm to Bayou
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What the frick does this frickin mean?
It makes more sense when it's in all caps.
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