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Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:48 pm to Hoodoo Man
Manziel won a heisman and look where he went. Most mocks have Mayfield around 15-20 but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him drop.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:50 pm to CocoLoco
Manziel was a bit of an outlier, especially for a QB.
Mayfield has done minimally dumb things, but he's nowhere near the walking tabloid that Johnny Football was in college.
Mayfield has done minimally dumb things, but he's nowhere near the walking tabloid that Johnny Football was in college.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:15 pm to Hoodoo Man
I think a team like Jacksonville has a good chance to get him. But if he falls to us or close I’m fine with taking him.
Jackson, Rosen and Darnold likely go before him. This mock has him at Jax fwiw LINK
Jackson, Rosen and Darnold likely go before him. This mock has him at Jax fwiw LINK
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:17 pm to Hoodoo Man
Kansas players refused to shake his hands before the game and were jackasses during it.
I don't condone what he did(but I don't see it as that big a deal)and he apologized.
He's nowhere near JFF
I don't condone what he did(but I don't see it as that big a deal)and he apologized.
He's nowhere near JFF
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:19 pm to Large Farva
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Why no?
Cause he sucks dummy
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:29 pm to TigerBait2008
You’re a retard & shitty alter
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:29 pm to TigerBait2008
Does he ?
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:47 pm to Lester Earl
You're a dumbass and shitty alter...lol fricking dumbass
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:48 pm to TigerBait2008
Lol upvoting your own post. Shitty alter
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:49 pm to Lester Earl
Lol dumbass
Post your proof or enjoy your ban fgt..
A 10 year alter..lol you clown
Post your proof or enjoy your ban fgt..
A 10 year alter..lol you clown
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 11/18/17 at 11:34 pm to TigerBait2008
Head case. No thanks.
Posted on 11/19/17 at 12:13 am to Lester Earl
(no message)
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 12:43 am
Posted on 11/19/17 at 6:20 am to CajunsTigersSaints
No thanks. He has had a couple of these maturity issues now. As far as i can tell, none of the consistently succesful qbs in the nfl act like that. Doesnt seem to have the maturity itll take to be in the film room as much as he needs to
Posted on 11/19/17 at 7:47 am to Large Farva
Hard pass on mayfield. Never been a huge fan of big 12 qbs and he seems like a giant count. There aren't exactly a ton of successful NFL qbs who act like a bitch and have to apologize multiple times per year for their behavior.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 7:51 am
Posted on 11/19/17 at 9:12 am to Lester Earl
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He needs to mature. He can keep his edge but not do stupid shite like this
This. The Manziel comparisons are dumb. Manziel had substance abuse issues, was a horrible teammate & had a poor work ethic while at Texas A&M. It was well documented that he barely practiced or watched film because Kevin Sumlin let him get away with those things. He also got into a physical altercation with an assistant coach there.
On the other hand, Mayfield is a hard worker. His work ethic is outstanding while spending lots of time perfecting his game & watching film. Yes he is too emotional at times but that can be corrected & lots of time that changes with age. I remember Phillip Rivers getting into it with fans as a young QB but he has since stopped that type of behavior.
With players like this, it's all about the leadership from top to bottom. Payton has a certain way he reaches players that many coaches don't have. You have the ultimate pro in Drew Brees to learn from. It's not always just about the player. Sometimes it's about the environment the player is drafted into that makes or breaks him. If Mayfield were to go to a team that lacks discipline & accountability then he could let his emotions wreck his NFL career but if he goes to a stable organization with good leadership, he could very well turn out to be a great player.
Posted on 11/19/17 at 9:22 am to St Augustine
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Never been a huge fan of big 12 qbs
Me either. I have my doubts about the air raid offense & how it doesn't prepare QBs properly for the NFL. With that said, look at some of piss poor organizations that have taken Big XII QBs in the last few years.
Colt McCoy - Browns
Vince Young - Titans (Remember Fisher didn't want him. Owner forced the pick)
Brandon Weeden - Browns
Robert Griffin - Redskins
Bryce Petty - Jets
These are some of the most dysfunctional organizations in all of football. The book is still open on Pat Mahomes but I believe he is one of the most favorable positions with K.C. of any the Big XII QBs drafted in the last few years.
Posted on 11/19/17 at 9:27 am to BigBrod81
Which conference they come from or how tall or how fast they run the 40 or what round you get them don't mean sh!t.
Drafting top QB's or top CB's is a crap shoot. I have given up trying to project QB's to the pro's. My reason is a road paved with those getting paid 6 figs and fired trying to do so.
Drafting top QB's or top CB's is a crap shoot. I have given up trying to project QB's to the pro's. My reason is a road paved with those getting paid 6 figs and fired trying to do so.
Posted on 11/19/17 at 9:28 am to josh336
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Doesnt seem to have the maturity itll take to be in the film room as much as he needs to
You are wrong here. Mayfield is a first player in, last player out the building guy. Don't mistake emotional outburst for him having a poor work ethic. This is false.
Posted on 11/19/17 at 9:36 am to goatmilker
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Which conference they come from or how tall or how fast they run the 40 or what round you get them don't mean sh!t.
This is the truth. Carson Wentz & Steve McNair have proven this to be correct.
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Drafting top QB's or top CB's is a crap shoot. I have given up trying to project QB's to the pro's.
Again, sometimes its not always just about the player. Yes, desire plays a big factor. Guys have to want to be great themselves but a shitty organization with a shitty coaching staff can ruin a young QB too.
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