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re: anyone who argues on behalf of bushrod
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:06 am to NIH
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:06 am to NIH
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you came off as the insecure SR poster that makes our fan base look like a bunch of inbred retards.
If i've come to realize anything, it's that you're a real internet tough guy who likes to insult people whenever given the chance.
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Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:07 am to TortiousTiger
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you keep saying this, but if we were so good running behing Brown, why did our running game suck, but is suddenly great without a FB and without Jammal Brown?
payton is committed to the run this year and has been pinning our run game off the backs of our two great guards in evans and nicks. i believe we either moved down to 14 or 18th in rushing off of LT this year. we'd be even better run blocking had brown been in there.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:07 am to TortiousTiger
our running game sucked early on because 1. bush got most of the carries and deuce was ancient 2. payton did not commit to the run.
after thomas took over we ran very well. also, even though bush only avg 3.8 ypc, he did run well behind brown.
after thomas took over we ran very well. also, even though bush only avg 3.8 ypc, he did run well behind brown.
This post was edited on 12/22/09 at 10:09 am
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:07 am to NIH
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literally getting Brees killed.
Breesus is dead?
:omg:
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:09 am to NIH
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saints report posters take it personal when a player is being spoken about in a negative way. you fit that mold because you jumped in this thread right away mouthing off. buzwa and others simply debated the point but you came off as the insecure SR poster that makes our fan base look like a bunch of inbred retards.
Yeah i'm calling you out on bitching about that. But i'm not afraid to argue your point which i'm doing.
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chances are he won't be starting in the playoffs after that last massacre. maybe he will if he finishes off strong but i wouldn't count on it.
my point is that he's awful at LT and there's no beating around on the bush on that. he is a huge reason we lost on saturday.
I would say that he is going to be starting and he's not the huge reason, Demarcus Ware is the huge reason. The coaching staff should have had a better protection scheme for the game besides Bushrod on an island against Ware who was Fresh all game because he was only in on passing downs.
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it was a point i did not mean for debate. that's just sidetracking had we gotten into that.
A point which was wrong therefore not a point, now we can move on from it.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:09 am to Towelie
bushrod will be pontius pilate if we let him
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:12 am to NIH
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bushrod will be pontius pilate if we let him
So because he sucks so bad, the saints won't even tender his arse in the offseason... wanna stand by your thoughts on him as a player now?
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:12 am to NIH
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payton is committed to the run this year and has been pinning our run game off the backs of our two great guards in evans and nicks.
oh ok. We're "committed" to the run now. We never ran behind guards before.
that explains it.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:12 am to TortiousTiger
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oh ok. We're "committed" to the run now. We never ran behind guards before.
that explains it.
It's the guards credit this year but not last year.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:13 am to Chad504boy
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Yeah i'm calling you out on bitching about that. But i'm not afraid to argue your point which i'm doing
you really haven't said anything of substance in this thread besides saying bushrod starter on a 13-1 team and don't complain. no stats, no analysis, nothing. you're incapable of debate.
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I would say that he is going to be starting and he's not the huge reason, Demarcus Ware is the huge reason. The coaching staff should have had a better protection scheme for the game besides Bushrod on an island against Ware who was Fresh all game because he was only in on passing downs.
anthony spencer also beat bushrod a few times so it's not limited to ware.
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A point which was wrong therefore not a point, now we can move on from it.
it was an example, if we debate if thomas was terrible in 2006 how is that conductive to the thread? my point was that you can't just defend a player because he is on a good team. unfortunately it went over your head and all you had to offer was 'he wasn't'.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:14 am to diat150
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you are retarded if you dont think brown is a top 10 left tackle. and thats putting it mildly.
You may have converted me from my retardism....I tried to think of 10 better LTs. All I could come up with were the following (and these are just names I can remember...I don't necessarily think they are better) You guys can debate, but it will be tough:
Joe Thomas
Jason Peters
Jake Long
Jordan Gross
Chris Samuels
Walter Jones (old as dirt though)
Marcus McNeill
D'Brickashaw Ferguson
Bryant McKinnie
Joe Staley
Matt Light
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:14 am to TortiousTiger
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oh ok. We're "committed" to the run now. We never ran behind guards before.
that explains it.
our run/pass ratio was 65/35% last year, it's pretty much been 50/50 through all of this year. i'd call that commitment.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:15 am to Chad504boy
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It's the guards credit this year but not last year.
i never said we didn't run well behind evans/nicks last year. it took a while for nicks to adust but he was a steamroller by december.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:16 am to NIH
that change in run/pass ratio has nothing to do with our newfound ability to run the ball.
nothing at all.
nothing at all.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:18 am to NIH
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you really haven't said anything of substance in this thread besides saying bushrod starter on a 13-1 team and don't complain. no stats, no analysis, nothing. you're incapable of debate.
Your whole fricking premise is flawed but you won't acknowledge that. Mark Brunnel fricking sucks too. Most of our backups suck in a starting role. THATS WHY THEY ARE BACKUPS. Bushrod has done an admirable job much of the year with a few sub par games which the coaching staff still can be blamed for much of the performance.
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anthony spencer also beat bushrod a few times so it's not limited to ware.
anthony henry intercepted also intercepted Drew Brees.
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it was an example,
which was wrong.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:18 am to NIH
Actually, anyone who continues to bash Brown needs to be taken out back and shot.
Sadly, a part of me is enjoying being able to tell these people how wrong they are.
Sadly, a part of me is enjoying being able to tell these people how wrong they are.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:19 am to TortiousTiger
we ran very well with pierre thomas last year, unfortunately payton didn't commit to running consistently. i argued this preseason that this o-line could run block and do it well. i think i may have been the only one after that Cincy game.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:20 am to Sophandros
saying brown does not deserve franchise type money is not bashing him.
I can think of about a dozen better ways this team can spend 11 mil/ yr
I can think of about a dozen better ways this team can spend 11 mil/ yr
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:22 am to TortiousTiger
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saying brown does not deserve franchise type money is not bashing him.
I can think of about a dozen better ways this team can spend 11 mil/ yr
I tend to agree with you here... i'd love to have brown for the next three years... i just don't know if I want the Saints to dole out a 5-6 year deal to Brown for huge money because I don't trust Brown's knees over the long haul. I think we've gotten the best of Brown's career already. He might have another 2 years in the tank.
Posted on 12/22/09 at 10:22 am to Chad504boy
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Your whole fricking premise is flawed but you won't acknowledge that. Mark Brunnel fricking sucks too. Most of our backups suck in a starting role. THATS WHY THEY ARE BACKUPS. Bushrod has done an admirable job much of the year with a few sub par games which the coaching staff still can be blamed for much of the performance.
no it's not, adding quality depth is an essential part of building a good football team. with a 16 game schedule you need quality depth.
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anthony henry intercepted also intercepted Drew Brees.
b/c brees and bushrod are comparable
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which was wrong.
how can it be wrong?
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