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46 D Basics
Posted on 3/30/09 at 10:44 am
Posted on 3/30/09 at 10:44 am
this was a part of a good CSC take on GW. Thought it deserved it's own thread to make sure everyone gets up to par on the GW 46 variations-
In short, it's a 46 defense also known originally as the Bear 46. It was created by Buddy Ryan while he was the defensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears and the name comes not from any formation but from Bears safety Doug Plank's jersey number. Here is the basic theme behind it.
The "46" was an innovative defense with a unique defensive front; designed to confuse the quarterback. The line was shifted dramatically to the weak side (opposite the Tight End), with both Offensive Guards and the Center "covered" by the Left Defensive End and both Defensive Tackles. This front forced offenses to immediately account for the defenders directly lined up in front of them, making it considerably harder to execute blocking assignments such as pulling, trapping, and in general, pass protection. Moreover, the Right Defensive End would align outside of the Left Offensive Tackle, leaving him "on an island" when trying to block him.
Another key feature of the "46" is that both outside linebackers play on the same side of the formation. To avoid confusion the strong side linebacker (who is no longer lining up on the strong side) is frequently renamed to the Jack Linebacker. The linebackers line up behind the linemen two or three yards from the line of scrimmage. The primary tactic is to rush five to eight players on each play, either to get to the quarterback quickly or disrupt running plays.
At it's most basic form, this is what the base "46" formation looks like.
Defensive Line: The "46" requires a lot of pressure from the front four, particularly the defensive ends. Pressure is constantly being applied from the outside and a lot is required from the two end positions.
Linebackers: The outside linebackers play just off the line of scrimmage acting basically as two extra down lineman. The middle linebacker is also in the box next to the strong safety.
Safeties: The strong safety is so far up that he is essentially a fourth linebacker. He has the option of blitzing or dropping back, always leaving defenses questioning. The free safety is left alone in the backfield for cover help.
Cornerbacks: The cornerbacks are responsible for playing tight man-to-man so they must have great coverage ability because safety help is minimal and limited to only the lone free safety in the middle of the field.
We all know Williams is a tough guy off the field and that attitude will definitely show through in his defense. The main objective of the "46" is attack, attack, attack the pass protection from all angles in an effort to shutdown the quarterback. With eight men in the box, pressure can come from anywhere; from all eight men to simply the front four and anywhere in between. The trick is constantly mixing up the pressure packages and formations in an effort to test the opposing offense and look for weaknesses to exploit later in the game. It's also meant to always keep the offense guessing where pressure will come from next. This is an inheritently aggressive defense built around a lot of blitzing. And blitz Williams will do. This is no secret. He told us so when he first arrived here in New Orleans.
"You've got to be excited about the offense," Williams said. "... If you like to (play) pressure defense like I do, then you get a chance to pin your ears back and rush the passer more when you can put points on the board."
But don't expect the defense to look exactly like this. It would be considered a bit unusual in today's NFL and after Bill Walsh developed the West Coast Offense to exploit the "46", too many teams now can easily take advantage of the traditional formation. It is more likely that the Saints will use the basic philosophy behind the "46" but in an adjusted version that will probably look more like the traditional 4-3 with lots of different pressure packages.
In short, it's a 46 defense also known originally as the Bear 46. It was created by Buddy Ryan while he was the defensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears and the name comes not from any formation but from Bears safety Doug Plank's jersey number. Here is the basic theme behind it.
The "46" was an innovative defense with a unique defensive front; designed to confuse the quarterback. The line was shifted dramatically to the weak side (opposite the Tight End), with both Offensive Guards and the Center "covered" by the Left Defensive End and both Defensive Tackles. This front forced offenses to immediately account for the defenders directly lined up in front of them, making it considerably harder to execute blocking assignments such as pulling, trapping, and in general, pass protection. Moreover, the Right Defensive End would align outside of the Left Offensive Tackle, leaving him "on an island" when trying to block him.
Another key feature of the "46" is that both outside linebackers play on the same side of the formation. To avoid confusion the strong side linebacker (who is no longer lining up on the strong side) is frequently renamed to the Jack Linebacker. The linebackers line up behind the linemen two or three yards from the line of scrimmage. The primary tactic is to rush five to eight players on each play, either to get to the quarterback quickly or disrupt running plays.
At it's most basic form, this is what the base "46" formation looks like.
Defensive Line: The "46" requires a lot of pressure from the front four, particularly the defensive ends. Pressure is constantly being applied from the outside and a lot is required from the two end positions.
Linebackers: The outside linebackers play just off the line of scrimmage acting basically as two extra down lineman. The middle linebacker is also in the box next to the strong safety.
Safeties: The strong safety is so far up that he is essentially a fourth linebacker. He has the option of blitzing or dropping back, always leaving defenses questioning. The free safety is left alone in the backfield for cover help.
Cornerbacks: The cornerbacks are responsible for playing tight man-to-man so they must have great coverage ability because safety help is minimal and limited to only the lone free safety in the middle of the field.
We all know Williams is a tough guy off the field and that attitude will definitely show through in his defense. The main objective of the "46" is attack, attack, attack the pass protection from all angles in an effort to shutdown the quarterback. With eight men in the box, pressure can come from anywhere; from all eight men to simply the front four and anywhere in between. The trick is constantly mixing up the pressure packages and formations in an effort to test the opposing offense and look for weaknesses to exploit later in the game. It's also meant to always keep the offense guessing where pressure will come from next. This is an inheritently aggressive defense built around a lot of blitzing. And blitz Williams will do. This is no secret. He told us so when he first arrived here in New Orleans.
"You've got to be excited about the offense," Williams said. "... If you like to (play) pressure defense like I do, then you get a chance to pin your ears back and rush the passer more when you can put points on the board."
But don't expect the defense to look exactly like this. It would be considered a bit unusual in today's NFL and after Bill Walsh developed the West Coast Offense to exploit the "46", too many teams now can easily take advantage of the traditional formation. It is more likely that the Saints will use the basic philosophy behind the "46" but in an adjusted version that will probably look more like the traditional 4-3 with lots of different pressure packages.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 10:58 am to blueslover
Great post. Thanks for the info.

Posted on 3/30/09 at 11:01 am to blueslover
Nice one. I didn't know he ran the 46. That leaves us and the Eagles as the only two I know of. This is good news for a Sharper signing, because he's a good SS for underneath and tackling, but we need a roamer for the backfield, which leads me to believe Jenkins will be the draft target and thus converted to FS.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 11:04 am to Midget Death Squad
I haven't been a big fan of Jenkins as CB but I'll trust their judgement. If they believe he can come in and be an impact FS by the end of the year then do it. I don't see them passing on him if he's still available either.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 11:35 am to Midget Death Squad
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That leaves us and the Eagles as the only two I know of.
they don't run the 46
and greg williams is more of a cover 2 guy
Posted on 3/30/09 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
don't overwhelm us with so much depth
Posted on 3/30/09 at 1:30 pm to blueslover
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don't overwhelm us with so much depth
Yeah, that's SFP.....his bag is filled with douche
Posted on 3/30/09 at 1:41 pm to blueslover
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don't overwhelm us with so much depth
it's already been posted about
LINK
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although Williams did have to scheme more to stop the occasional bleeding on defense. He went often to Cover 2 defenses, meaning his safeties would play deeper, and his front seven would have to stop the run themselves. In other words, no "eight men in the box" to stop the run. But Tatum Bell and Tiki Barber exposed that run defense early, and the safeties were told they had to step up and stop the run from Cover 2, until the front seven got their act together. The insertion of LaVar Arrington into the run defense (for Warrick Holdman) helped get that solidified, although Arrington was again a clear victim of Williams' ego. Arrington was the highest-paid defender, and prone to freelancing -- he acted like he was bigger than the team -- and Williams was there to humble him. He made him a scapegoat, and wouldn't even talk to him at times, but once Arrington finally shut his mouth and acquiesced, he got to play. Was he an impact player anymore? No. But he helped stop the run, allowing them to play the Cover 2, and the defense went on a late-season tear to help get hobbling quarterback Mark Brunell to the playoffs.
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On the field, Jackson's (and presumably Williams') techniques aren't working, either. The innovators of Cover 2, such as Monte Kiffin and Tony Dungy, want their safeties staying deep, 2 yards inside the numbers and staying squared up. They want them reading the quarterback and breaking downhill on everything. But Jackson began teaching Taylor and Co. not to read the quarterback, but to read the receivers' breaks and releases and react accordingly. He wanted them to be aggressive out of Cover 2, to help on the run, even though Cover 2 is not known to be a run-stopping defense. Williams wants to call it a lot because, ideally, if you can stop the run with a Cover 2, you have the best of both worlds, because it's specifically designed to prevent the deep ball. But Jackson kept exhorting Taylor and his early-season safety mate, Adam Archuleta, to be aggressive playing the run out of the Cover 2, and they began to get beat on the play-action pass repeatedly.
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Williams, in the meantime, has not backed off of calling the Cover 2, perhaps out of stubbornness. And the rest of the league has clearly caught on.
"Guys are saying teams have figured Gregg out, his M.O.," the Redskins defender said. "They know he's going to play the run with Cover 2. They know he's going to come and blitz [leaving corners on an island] on third down, and none of our blitzes are getting there anymore. We're trying to get too cute, we're trying to reinvent the wheel, instead of understanding what wins football games.
"Gregg Williams, I don't understand. They're so arrogant around here, they think they can stop the run in Cover 2. When it's an obvious running down, he calls Cover 2. That's a seven-man front. They're going to get 4 yards a carry every time. There might be some games where, hey, we're playing the crap out of the run in Cover 2. Well, that's great. Then, you call it. But when you're getting gashed Cover 2, Cover 2, and they come out in two tight ends, two running backs, and one wide receiver and we're in Cover 2. … And if we don't call Cover 2, we blitz. And you live by the blitz, you die by the blitz."
he was also pretty much run out of jacksonville b/c he ran too much cover-2 and del rio didn't like it
i have no problems with the cover 2, but i mean his last 2 DC jobs have come under fire for his reliance on using it, so i wouldn't exactly criticize what i'm saying.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 1:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
nah, not criticizing, just put the effort in to make a point... as you did there. This is definitely a big showcase opportunity for him after the dings to his rep.
Even more than scheme the thing I have read most consistently is that he adpats the scheme to whatever personnel he has. THAT could be a real challenge with a lot of unknowns on D.
Even more than scheme the thing I have read most consistently is that he adpats the scheme to whatever personnel he has. THAT could be a real challenge with a lot of unknowns on D.
Posted on 3/30/09 at 1:48 pm to blueslover
well we have like the anti-46 personnel
our CBs are question marks until proven otherwise
we have no real coverage FS
we have 1 speed rusher
our CBs are question marks until proven otherwise
we have no real coverage FS
we have 1 speed rusher
Posted on 3/30/09 at 1:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they (Eagles) don't run the 46
Well, I'm not sure what Eagles team you have been watching, but the one I see every week runs a version of the 46. Now, i guess I should have clarified in my previous post that it's a "form" of it and not a "true" 46, but I didn't since I have posted on this before.
OK, now to the proof. It took me a little searching, because it's not something that is often written about, but here is an article that touches this point.
LINK
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As previously stated, the Jim Johnson Eagle defense is a variant of the 46 defense. More correctly, it is a variant of a" modified 46." In the Eagle defense, the WLB generally remains weak side while either one of the two safeties moves up close to the line
Now, I hope we don't need to hear anymore nonsense from you that the Eagles don't run a 46 without you even saying what they actually do run.
Thank you,
MDS
This post was edited on 3/30/09 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 3/30/09 at 2:55 pm to Midget Death Squad
NYG Tom Coughlin/Steve Spagnuolo 4-3
PHI Andy Reid/Jim Johnson 4-3
Johnson and Spagnuolo are the most aggressive 4-3 coaches in the league. Rex Ryan belongs in the discussion, but the Ravens blitz less frequently than you’d think. Despite their solid front four, both Johnson and Spagnuolo will routinely blitz out of a read-and-react scheme, sending six in pass rush more often than any other 4-3 in the league.
LINK
I’ve heard fairly mixed reactions from the SOB Nation regarding Friday’s signing Free Agent Safety Sean Jones, but the Eagles are spinning it as a big plus. For every positive that I can find in Jones, there is a negative or uncertainty that has yet to be answered.
We will all be watching Jones closely in training camp and and throughout the pre-season, it will be interesting to see how he pans out. I think he will be given the opportunity to make an impact this season. Not sure why, but I do feel a lot more comfortable with Jones on the roster than I did a few days ago when Demps was the only remotely viable Safety option outside of Quintin Mikell.
Jones, although coming from a 3-4 defensive scheme, he’s excited about coming to the Eagles and playing in Jim Johnson’s aggressive 4-3 defense:
LINK
The guy we target instead is Ron Rivera. Rivera is a familiar name to Rex. He played in Chicago under his father. Rivera passes the comfort test. He also will not have any problem being adaptable. He played in the Ryan 46 scheme. He learned as a coach in Jim Johnson’s blitzing 4-3. He ran Lovey Smith’s 4-3 Tampa 2 in Chicago and has since taken over San Diego’s 3-4. Everywhere he has gone, the constant has been success.
LINK
bottom line, PHI runs a shitload of base formations, including a 46, 3-4, and joker, but their base is a 4-3
PHI Andy Reid/Jim Johnson 4-3
Johnson and Spagnuolo are the most aggressive 4-3 coaches in the league. Rex Ryan belongs in the discussion, but the Ravens blitz less frequently than you’d think. Despite their solid front four, both Johnson and Spagnuolo will routinely blitz out of a read-and-react scheme, sending six in pass rush more often than any other 4-3 in the league.
LINK
I’ve heard fairly mixed reactions from the SOB Nation regarding Friday’s signing Free Agent Safety Sean Jones, but the Eagles are spinning it as a big plus. For every positive that I can find in Jones, there is a negative or uncertainty that has yet to be answered.
We will all be watching Jones closely in training camp and and throughout the pre-season, it will be interesting to see how he pans out. I think he will be given the opportunity to make an impact this season. Not sure why, but I do feel a lot more comfortable with Jones on the roster than I did a few days ago when Demps was the only remotely viable Safety option outside of Quintin Mikell.
Jones, although coming from a 3-4 defensive scheme, he’s excited about coming to the Eagles and playing in Jim Johnson’s aggressive 4-3 defense:
LINK
The guy we target instead is Ron Rivera. Rivera is a familiar name to Rex. He played in Chicago under his father. Rivera passes the comfort test. He also will not have any problem being adaptable. He played in the Ryan 46 scheme. He learned as a coach in Jim Johnson’s blitzing 4-3. He ran Lovey Smith’s 4-3 Tampa 2 in Chicago and has since taken over San Diego’s 3-4. Everywhere he has gone, the constant has been success.
LINK
bottom line, PHI runs a shitload of base formations, including a 46, 3-4, and joker, but their base is a 4-3
This post was edited on 3/30/09 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/31/09 at 5:04 pm to TortiousTiger
Great Original post, we need more of these.
Posted on 4/1/09 at 12:48 am to blueslover
Thanks for the info here.
Just my thoughts...
I know we have lots of new personnel, but I'd say until our CBs and safeties can prove that they can stop the deep ball, this makes me a little nervous.
Just my thoughts...
I know we have lots of new personnel, but I'd say until our CBs and safeties can prove that they can stop the deep ball, this makes me a little nervous.
Posted on 4/1/09 at 9:25 am to shel311
it's always an unknown, 3&1's don't look any better yet either. Ya know the axiom about making the same mistake over? That is what I'm happy about. They may fail with GW and new people but at least it won't be the same tried and proven failure we saw with Gibbs, Bullocks, etc.

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