re: 3 QBs….. can we find just 1 to be Effective

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We do, but the new parts are worse than the old. It’s obvious now a healthy Cart is far superior to anyone in the current qb room

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You had to be an idiot to not recognize this.

This shoukd be the year we bottom out and draft a qb high but now you have to give Shough two years. So you screwed your self out of a starting spot somewhere else only to likely draft another qb.

You’re saying … I don’t understand how hard it is for the Saints to find a QB..

In the long 50+ year history of the Saints… there has only been 2 Meaningful QBs who could stand up to their Peers in a significant way:

1) Drew Brees
2) Archie Manning

Drew Bree’s became a success because they surrounded him with talent. If he were surrounded by the team Archie was… no HOF career.

Archie Manning was a player with HOF ability but they/ Saints never surrounded him with talent… which does not negate his abilities.

In fact, the year he went to the Pro Bowl he was voted MVP of the Game because he was finally surrounded by a good team.
Roger Staubach once said he was amazed by Mannings abilities but the Daints organization was Archie’s problem.

Oh yeah… I know how hard it is to find a QB as a Saints Fan….and we STILL don’t have one on this team.

Moore will have his chance to find one in the 2026 Draft when they pick probably 1-5 in the 1st Rd.

Will be a major pick in his career as a head coach.

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Drew Bree’s became a success because they surrounded him with talent. If he were surrounded by the team Archie was… no HOF career.

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You think Brees was a success because of the talent surrounding him?

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Oh yeah… I know how hard it is to find a QB as a Saints Fan….and we STILL don’t have one on this team.

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The way you were whining “can just 1 of the 3 be effective” sounded different. It’s highly unlikely we find an effective starter out if those 3. You should have realized that.

No QB can win in a vacuum.
Let me say that again…
No QB can win in a vacuum.

Bree’s and Archie had innate HOF ability. Both extremely talented.

But you need players around you .. that have talent which allows you to showcase your own talent.

Brees was fortunate enough to have those surrounded players that accentuated and augmented his own talent.

Archie was not as fortunate.

Tigerbait2008……

Your lack of football and life knowledge is so extensive and on full display.

Again you only insult and contribute nothing….. for ALL to see !!

Oh .. I’m relaxed.

I’m just telling you that Shough is not as advanced as they hoped he would present.

Reports out of camp are his extreme hesitancy…. that’s normal for a rookie … but certainly NOT an Advanced Ability to give him a leg-up on Rattler.

Bobby Hebert has been ripping on Shough saying that 7 on 7 drills are designed to have u make quick decisions and quickly release the ball…

Well… Shough has been so hesitant that he’s scrambling per 7 on 7 drills with no pass rush coming at him cause he can’t read what he’s seeing.
That’s NOT advanced.

I know….
I know……..

Someone will say it’s “drunk” Bobby Hebert but his knowledge of the QB position and the game in critiquing Shough.. at this stage of his career… is important.

This shaping up to be….
Rattler starting the season maybe first 6-7 games…with 1 or 2 wins….

Then Shough is thrust into the starting position not because he’s advanced but because Rattler has been so bad and they have nothing to lose. I certainly wouldn’t give the job to Haener !!

Key is….. Saints will have a top 5 pick next year and if they don’t see a franchise type QB Quality Potential to ANY of their 3 quarterbacks … they will be in a position to select one of the Top College QBs in the draft.

Then…. School is out.

—-Haener would get cut.
—-Rattler maybe traded IF someone had interest.
Shough is back-up to the new Rookie.

Have a Beer….
It’s geauxing to be a loooong ride.