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re: 24 wins & 23 losses after Drew signs his $100 million deal.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:22 pm to Melvin
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:22 pm to Melvin
20% for a Super Bowl? In a heartbeat.
If you think Drew is playing for the money, then I can't help you. Drew wants to win Super Bowls. Drew would play for free if it meant winning another SB. When his career is over, he will be remembered for how many SB's he won, not how much money he made.
When he finished his career with only one SB win, he will just be added to the long list of others who did just that.
If you think Drew is playing for the money, then I can't help you. Drew wants to win Super Bowls. Drew would play for free if it meant winning another SB. When his career is over, he will be remembered for how many SB's he won, not how much money he made.
When he finished his career with only one SB win, he will just be added to the long list of others who did just that.
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:22 pm to Lombardi44
won superbowl. won more games than any other quarterback since joining the saints till that contract.. all the while being underpaid
he was kind of due.
he was kind of due.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:23 pm to windshieldman
quote:Yeah so I guess like I said earlier you would have preferred for us to not give him a choice and let him go to another team.
Of course not, a good company would cut my pay without giving me a choice if it was negatively affecting the company.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:24 pm to Lombardi44
quote:You are completely delusional if you honestly believe that.
If you think Drew is playing for the money, then I can't help you. Drew wants to win Super Bowls. Drew would play for free if it meant winning another SB. When his career is over, he will be remembered for how many SB's he won, not how much money he made.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:26 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
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We save $6 million by cutting Evans and $3.6 million by cutting Grubbs
And replace them with _______ that have been groomed?
Young talent or FA. It is arguably the easiest transition in the NFL and pretty cheap too.
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Because they gave an outstanding contract (for him, that is) to a player with one good season who still had another year on his original contract.
We locked him up for 6 seasons. He's been great.
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No, the Saints SOLD it to us that his best years were behind him, which we now know was a bunch of bullshite, and that we were just ready to move on. Or maybe they really believed that. Shame on them if true.
We let him walk and signed other players, including hte highest paid S in the NFL. The money was there. PT was willing to take a pay cut and he wasnt
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:26 pm to Lombardi44
I've yet to hear anyone say what we should've done instead of pay him.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:27 pm to Eman5805
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I've yet to hear anyone say what we should've done instead of pay him.
We should have offered him 20% less b/c unicorns and fairy dust
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:28 pm to Lombardi44
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Not the kind of return anyone was hoping for. The were 41-13 in the 3 years prior to the deal.
Several have paid their big time QBs and still have quality rosters. Hell Flacco makes around what Brees makes and Ravens are still a good club.
QB deserves the $. The problem arrives when you overpay everyone else who isnt a LT or a elite pass rusher.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:30 pm to Lombardi44
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Drew would play for free
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:34 pm to TigerBait1127
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Young talent or FA. It is arguably the easiest transition in the NFL and pretty cheap too.
lol, ok. I guess one day we're going to be anchored by that Rooks guy that we spent a draft pick on, whose very physical existence on Earth no one can prove.
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We locked him up for 6 seasons. He's been great.
He has been a pleasant surprise in the pass-rushing department...up to this season. He hasn't been overly impressive this year. I don't know how many sacks he has, but I don't think he'll hit double-digits. And double digit sacks is what he was paid for. He's been a disappointment in the run defense, and he has been abysmal in outside containment all season.
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PT was willing to take a pay cut and he wasnt
PT wasn't the NFL's all time all-purpose yards leader two seasons prior. Sproles was.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:39 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
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lol, ok. I guess one day we're going to be anchored by that Rooks guy that we spent a draft pick on, whose very physical existence on Earth no one can prove.
This is just meaningless bs. Are you suggesting that we can't address the guard position in FA or in the 2nd, 3rd, or even 1st round?
What is your suggestion here? You brought up their contracts for years down the road, and i brought up how we can get out of them this year.
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He has been a pleasant surprise in the pass-rushing department...up to this season. He hasn't been overly impressive this year.
Wow
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I don't know how many sacks he has, but I don't think he'll hit double-digits. And double digit sacks is what he was paid for.
He's 5th in pass rushing productivity. He has 7 sacks, 12 hits, and 37 hurries
Last year, he had 12 sacks, 12 hits, and 34 hurries.
He's causing more pressure than last year. He's the only one causing consistent pressure. Wow is really all I can say if you think he's been a problem or fallen off this year
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PT wasn't the NFL's all time all-purpose yards leader two seasons prior. Sproles was.
Ok? What does that have to do with the front office making the decision?
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:03 pm to TigerBait1127
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This is just meaningless bs. Are you suggesting that we can't address the guard position in FA or in the 2nd, 3rd, or even 1st round? What is your suggestion here? You brought up their contracts for years down the road, and i brought up how we can get out of them this year.
Yeah, ok. We DO address it in FA and in the draft. It just doesn't fricking work. I don't give a shite that Grubbs made the Pro-bowl last year (or maybe it was the year before), my eyes tell me he's not that good. And every year we draft OLinmen. Doesn't mean the problem is solved. We happened to strike gold with Evans and Nicks earlier I their careers and got overachievement from the tackles and centers during that time.
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He's 5th in pass rushing productivity. He has 7 sacks, 12 hits, and 37 hurries Last year, he had 12 sacks, 12 hits, and 34 hurries. He's causing more pressure than last year. He's the only one causing consistent pressure. Wow is really all I can say if you think he's been a problem or fallen off this year
How many times did you hear his name called today?
He got paid the amount of money that a perennial pro-bowler would make. He's not that. And he got paid that contract a year early.
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Ok? What does that have to do with the front office making the decision?
Ok fine. The front office made the decision (I don't even know what you're arguing there). It was the wrong decision. If he was traded to make room for Jairus Byrd, then it was the wrong decision...so far. Maybe Byrd and his bad back will be all-world in the next couple of years. But I was under the impression that this team was going to contend for a championship THIS year. I was certainly glad that the team made a move at the safety position in the offseason. But I thought they paid too much for him at the time and that was before I knew he was damaged goods.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:12 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
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Yeah, ok. We DO address it in FA and in the draft. It just doesn't fricking work.
What? Evans is the 3rd worst pass blocking guard in the NFL this season. We haven't had to address guard but once in a long, long time. A fresh left guard could not do worse in pass blocking than what Jahri has done this year. It is widely considered one of the easiest transitions from college to the NFL too, and a cheap position to fill in FA.
I'm not sure how one could reasonably say we DO address it in FA and draft. We haven't had to outside of Grubbs who's been serviceable to good in his time here.
You brought up how they're eating up cap from year's to come. Their contracts allow for us to get out of that. We're not keeping Evans for this production
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How many times did you hear his name called today?
Seriously? Must mean he's having a terrible year then.
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Ok fine. The front office made the decision (I don't even know what you're arguing there).
Try to keep up. I'm arguing that we chose other players over him and it had little to nothing to do with Drew's contract.
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It was the wrong decision.
I don't disagree. That wasn't your argument though.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:16 pm to TigerBait1127
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Seriously? Must mean he's having a terrible year then.
Honestly, i'm tired. Kinda fed up. So i'm throwing in the towel for the night.
But I never said he was having a terrible year. I said he's been ok in the pass rush and not good against the run and in containment. But he's not lived up to his current contract, IMO. Not even close really.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:17 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
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But I never said he was having a terrible year. I said he's been ok in the pass rush
No, you said he's been a good pass rusher up until this year even though he's generating more pressure this year
Not to mention that his contract has no bearing on that record
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:27 pm to TigerBait1127
I mentioned in another post maybe Brees is lacking a bit in the leadership and intensity department and was summarily attacked by the Drew Fan-boy Club.
Criticism of Drew of any kind is not allowed on this forum.
Criticism of Drew of any kind is not allowed on this forum.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:31 pm to Lombardi44
Dumb argument.
Brees's contract has not stopped the team from putting a ton of money into the offensive line or the defense.
Evans and Grubbs are paid in the top-5 for their position.
Byrd is the 2nd highest paid safety.
Galette got paid. Lofton got paid. Hawthorne got paid. Bunkley got paid. Lewis got paid
Compared to those guys (minus Lewis), Drew is the one whose contract looks the best based on his performance. If you put the stone footed Tom Brady or Peyton Manning behind this line and with this shitty of a defense, you would be looking at a much worse season.
Now shut up.
Brees's contract has not stopped the team from putting a ton of money into the offensive line or the defense.
Evans and Grubbs are paid in the top-5 for their position.
Byrd is the 2nd highest paid safety.
Galette got paid. Lofton got paid. Hawthorne got paid. Bunkley got paid. Lewis got paid
Compared to those guys (minus Lewis), Drew is the one whose contract looks the best based on his performance. If you put the stone footed Tom Brady or Peyton Manning behind this line and with this shitty of a defense, you would be looking at a much worse season.
Now shut up.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:33 pm to MetTiger
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I mentioned in another post maybe Brees is lacking a bit in the leadership and intensity department
That isn't what you did.
1st, you stated it as fact
2nd, you said this:
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Yet Brady plays with fire when he could be cashing in. Our guy is simply cashing in and putting up stats while Brady is putting up W's.
Which is ridiculous
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Criticism of Drew of any kind is not allowed on this forum.
Sure it is, just should be valid.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:35 pm to MetTiger
It's cool how if anyone is wrong on this board, and they get called out on it, the fool can always just find another idiot talking to prove how much of a martyr they are.
Here's a tip: if everyone seems to disagree with you, it's tempting to use some mental gymnastics to convince yourself that everyone else is dumb.
Fight that temptation.
It's part of being an adult.
Here's a tip: if everyone seems to disagree with you, it's tempting to use some mental gymnastics to convince yourself that everyone else is dumb.
Fight that temptation.
It's part of being an adult.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:50 pm to Hoodoo Man
24-23 is Romo like
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