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re: Why is this organization digging themselves in such a deep hole?

Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:11 pm to
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I actually don't totally disagree with the OP


What a shock
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26355 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:12 pm to
I can't stand people that want cap space over actually NBA players. It's like y'all want the Geico Dollar Eyes out on the court playing.

We have the most overall talent on our team right now than we've have in a very very long time. The wins will come once they actually play together.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36650 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:14 pm to
I'm not trying to frame it as a total disaster, but they have forced way too much and trading away your 1st round pick 3 years in a row isn't cool. Seriously who the frick does that?!
Especially with the talent that has been coming in and how cheap you can get them.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 2:16 pm
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19492 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:14 pm to
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What a shock
You'd have to be a pretty huge sunshine pumper to not at least sort of agree with the premise of the FO feeling like they had to do something to win now hasn't exactly paid off so far
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127763 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:17 pm to
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You'd have to be a pretty huge sunshine pumper to not at least sort of agree with the premise of the FO feeling like they had to do something to win now hasn't exactly paid off so far



Or you could say that we have literally no clue since the roster hasn't played together yet as envisioned.

How about we wait and see what they do this offseason, let them play, and then make these kind of judgments?
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36650 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:19 pm to
What judgment do you speak of?
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
6094 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:20 pm to
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but they have forced way too much and trading away your 1st round pick 3 years in a row isn't cool.

I'd rather a young vet, than an unproven rookie especially if you aren't picking in the top 5.

Bill Simmons as much as he ripped us for the Nerlens trade said he views Nerlens as an energy guy coming off the bench. Sorry but I'm taking Jrue 10/10 over some hustle player off the bench.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19492 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:23 pm to
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How about we wait and see what they do this offseason, let them play, and then make these kind of judgments?
So now one year later I can't make any judgements on last seasons big moves? I have to wait two years to comment on it?

The "wait until next year" sort of thing is something that fans of badly run franchises pretty much always say. Just saying.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127763 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:24 pm to
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What judgment do you speak of?


That going for the win now isn't paying off.

I'd sure rather be us than Philly.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19492 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:25 pm to
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I'd sure rather be us than Philly.

eh...I guess so

But only because we have Davis
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2939 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

The wins will come once they actually play together.


Exactly, this team was decent last year considering we had our starting center, starting point guard and 2nd leading scorer playing less than 35 games this season. I wonder how many teams have overcome such injuries to make it to the playoffs.
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1672 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:26 pm to
The National Media feeds the public the same stuff over and over again. That the only way to build a team is through tanking. Idiots buy this theory, other people think for themselves and realize it's not true.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127763 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:26 pm to
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So now one year later I can't make any judgements on last seasons big moves? I have to wait two years to comment on it?


Some things last year may have affected that. You may have watched last year and noticed that some players were injured.

Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19492 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

You may have watched last year and noticed that some players were injured.
I think I saw something of that nature, yes
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127763 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

eh...I guess so

But only because we have Davis


So, you would almost rather have your franchise openly admit they are going to be TERRIBLE for at least 2 more years, have virtually no players worth a shite...

Or have a GM that is going for wins and have Jrue Holiday, Tyreke Evans, Omer Asik, Ryan Anderson and Anthony Davis.

k.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19492 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:29 pm to
I said I'd go with the Pelicans brah

Get off my case
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19492 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:30 pm to
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have virtually no players worth a shite...
You're ripping on me for making determinations about things we don't know in the present but can only know if we wait a year or two, and then say this?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127763 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

You're ripping on me for making determinations about things we don't know in the present but can only know if we wait a year or two, and then say this?



Our players are veterans that have all proven to be worth a shite in their careers.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19492 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:35 pm to
But you just told me we needed to wait and see how they play together?

Wouldn't that apply to the Sixers too?

So we have to wait and see if our team is good because they haven't played together, but the Sixers is shite, even though you haven't seem them play together.

huh...
Posted by Rico Tubbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
465 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:36 pm to
Quick! Name 5 key contributors from the 2013 draft class and 5 players to look forward to from the 2015 draft.

I'll wait....
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