re: What significant thing has Jrue done since being traded?

First, screw NBA.com for defaulting all the stats to Playoff stats and rubbing it in the face of fans of non playoff teams

Holiday passes to AD more effectively than anyone else on the team.

AD FG% off Pass from:

Holiday 54.7%
Evans 48.9%
Gordon 47.2%

Tyreke was injured this year you say? Well let's look at last year's numbers.

Holiday 57.8%
Gordon 55.3%
Evans 49.6%

Holiday lead the team in On Court Net Rating if you don't count partial season guys like Frazier. Granted it was still a negative number, -0.6, but last year he was 2nd behind AD in Net Rating among full time players as well at 3.5

Thanks to attacking the basket and getting to the line more he had his most efficient season in terms of TS% despite having a down year from 3. His PER was also a career high at 19.7.

I'm really not sure what you're aiming at here. If you're trying to say Holiday isn't good or is even "just a guy", that's silly. Is he a true #2? No, and we're still not even sure if he's a good fit to be the lead guard in Gentry's offense judging by journeymen being equally effective in that role, but I think it's undeniable that he's a difference maker for this team and a long term fit. Do I trade him or his cap space for a similarly capable wing? In a heartbeat. But considering that's not likely to happen and how bare the cupboard is, he's certainly not expendable which is what it feels like you're saying.

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I don't think Tyreke is a great player but on here he's considered trash and hurts the team but we've done nothing but win with him starting.

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I don't think he's trash but I do wonder how well he can fit Gentry's system. With a different coach I think both would be fine, in fact I've said I think Thibs could break Tyreke into an All Star. But we're stuck with Gentry and have seen 2 undrafted journeyman PGs run the offense well, so you have to start asking who fits best and what's the best use of money and minutes.

You want to nitpick Holiday's defense but we've seen him slow down top guards in the league. You've pointed to games Tyreke won in the past with his offense but there were also games last year where Holiday's defense was the difference maker. December 2nd, 112-104 win against OKC. Westbrook 6/20 (30%) from the field. December 18th, 99-90 win over the Rockets, Harden 8/23 (34.8%) from the field. December 21st, 101-99 Pels beat OKC. IIRC this is the one where Jrue and Asik shut Westbrook down pretty dramatically in the last 2 minutes. Westbrook shot 37% for the game. Maybe he's like Ariza and he needs to work on his consistency, but we've seen him rise to the occasion against top competition in the past, so it's not like he's a bad or even mediocre defender.