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re: We are very good!!
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:16 pm to ScoopAndScore
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:16 pm to ScoopAndScore
Why the frick would you want to turn into a middle of the pack western team instead of getting a top 3 and top 15 pick?
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Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
its very tough to get a center priced right in the NBA. if you are 6'11 or bigger and have any skill set whatsoever you are going to get PAID
Just look at Okafor, for example. Look at the insane amount of money guys like Dampier have made in their careers....the list goes on and on.
If Kaman is playing for a contract, he might have a great year and then he will be expensive as hell to bring back IMO.
Just look at Okafor, for example. Look at the insane amount of money guys like Dampier have made in their careers....the list goes on and on.
If Kaman is playing for a contract, he might have a great year and then he will be expensive as hell to bring back IMO.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:26 pm to Hullabaloo
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Why the frick would you want to turn into a middle of the pack western team instead of getting a top 3 and top 15 pick?
Being 5 or 6 in the West is not really "middle of the pack", especially when you factor in the youth element of this team combined with already having the Minn lottery pick.
I'm saying if this team is truly good enough right now, as is, to be 5 or 6 in the West, then that is MUCH better than being one of the bottom 3 teams in the entire NBA right now.
And newsflash, we would not be "turning into a middle of the pack western team", that is exactly where this team was BEFORE the trade. Now, we just might be better than middle of the pack plus we already have a lottery pick that most expect to be top 5. As a die hard hornet fan, I'm very excited about this prospect. Sure it might be a pipe dream that this team is actually any good right now, but I would much prefer that over being horrible.
Let's see, we can either have one of the worst teams in the entire NBA and have to add multiple pieces....OR, we could be a playoff team with solid players built around the best young SG in the league WITH a top 5 lottery pick already in our pocket. I'll take the latter please.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:27 pm to Shankopotomus
Id like for Kaman to be involved in a trade for granger. Indy having Paul george has no use for Danny boy now.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:28 pm to Shankopotomus
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If Kaman is playing for a contract, he might have a great year and then he will be expensive as hell to bring back IMO.
Kwame Brown and Dalembert both just got $7 million deals. They are much less skilled than Kaman. I'd expect him to get at least $10 per if not keep or increase his current $12 per.
The only way I see making the playoffs this year being a good thing long term is if the new owner is willing to pay the luxury tax starting next year AND the Timberwolves pick ends up being top 3. If you don't have both of those the team is better served by 2 top 10 picks.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:28 pm to Hullabaloo
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Why the frick would you want to turn into a middle of the pack western team instead of getting a top 3 and top 15 pick?
We still have to resign Gordon, showing him that we are dedicated to winning goes a long way in doing that. You think he wants to sit around while the team wins 15 games.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:30 pm to ScoopAndScore
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And newsflash, we would not be "turning into a middle of the pack western team", that is exactly where this team was BEFORE the trade. Now, we just might be better than middle of the pack
Now we aren't better than middle of the pack. Outside of eg our starting 5 is shite and we have little depth on the bench. We would be fricked in the playoffs. I'd rather load up on talent in the best draft class since 03
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:31 pm to TigerinATL
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The only way I see making the playoffs this year being a good thing long term is if the new owner is willing to pay the luxury tax starting next year AND the Timberwolves pick ends up being top 3. If you don't have both of those the team is better served by 2 top 10 picks.
What about filling up the Arena for that new owner? And just overall excitement in the city, esp following the loss of CP3?
That might help sway an owner to pay the luxury tax.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:32 pm to ScoopAndScore
Not winning actually helps attendance because ticket prices will drop bro
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:35 pm to Hullabaloo
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Id like for Kaman to be involved in a trade for granger. Indy having Paul george has no use for Danny boy now.
They can just play together like they have done the 1st two preseason games.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:36 pm to dj30
Fck that logical shite
COME HOME GRANGER
COME HOME GRANGER
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:36 pm to Hullabaloo
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Not winning actually helps attendance because ticket prices will drop bro
wtf dude
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:38 pm to dj30
It does, people will most definitely sit in lower bowl for 15 dollars rather than 45
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:39 pm to Hullabaloo
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Outside of eg our starting 5 is shite and we have little depth on the bench.
I think you are understating Kamen, Ariza and Landry tremendously. Not to mention Aminu (one of those top 10 picks everyone is so excited about next year).
Having EG, Ariza, Kamen and Landry in your starting 5 is not shite. Granted, we need another stud along with EG (at PG, SF or PF), which would move one of the other guys to the bench and bolster the depth. But to say the roster is basically shite besides EG is flat out wrong.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:39 pm to dj30
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You think he wants to sit around while the team wins 15 games.
We may get to stop caring about what Gordon thinks by January 25th. He's going to get too much money offered to him to leave it on the table unless he absolutely hates it here.
As long as Demps gets good value for trades and appears to have a plan I'm sure he'll be fine. Demps is already being credited by some hornetards as having the Ayon move planned out when he sold the 2nd rounder for cash. If Bower had earned that kind of credibility maybe CP3 would still be here.
This post was edited on 12/22/11 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:40 pm to Hullabaloo
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Not winning actually helps attendance because ticket prices will drop bro
Ticket sales don't seem to be the problem - 10k season tickets sold ,right?
Now it's just making sure they keep coming.
This post was edited on 12/22/11 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:41 pm to Hullabaloo
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It does, people will most definitely sit in lower bowl for 15 dollars rather than 45
Ive been to plenty of Hornets games through the years, attendance is definitely better when we are winning. Also those 15 dollar tickets isnt helping paid attendance, thats just season ticket holders selling their tickets on stub hub because they dont want to go to the games because we suck.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:42 pm to dj30
I'm
Not saying losing is better for ticket sales then winning.
Just that losing doesn't hurt it as much because of low ticket prices.
Not saying losing is better for ticket sales then winning.
Just that losing doesn't hurt it as much because of low ticket prices.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:42 pm to ScoopAndScore
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What about filling up the Arena for that new owner?
One of the rumors is that the new owner killed the Lakers deal that would have made the Hornets a definite 4-8 seed. If true then the new owner is interested in rebuilding.
Posted on 12/22/11 at 12:46 pm to TigerinATL
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One of the rumors is that the new owner killed the Lakers deal that would have made the Hornets a definite 4-8 seed. If true then the new owner is interested in rebuilding.
I think that deal was killed because of high payroll and no future consideration.
Stern got best of all worlds with his Clippers deal. Lower payroll, future consideration AND we might still be pretty competitive this year.
Stern = league's best owner, President and GM.
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