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re: Trade Jrue Holiday

Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:03 pm to
Forget NBA Titles

G-League titles are where its at
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11592 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:06 pm to
As much as the fiscal part of me wants the assets...

Sports arent strictly fiscal

Jrue has qualities that are exceptionally rare in the NBA

He can teach your youngins things that coaches cant and impart wisdom life cant

In sports not everything revolves around assets or prospects

Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:06 pm to
Langdon could get us a team in Russia or Serbia

Tha Pelikany has a nice ring

Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:07 pm to
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Langdon could get us a team in Russia or Serbia

Tha Pelikany has a nice ring

Siberian Murder Birds sounds super Russian to me
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:08 pm to
There’s no need to trade him now, but I do think it is something you have to think long and hard about next season.

Jrue is 29 years old. By any honest metric he is not on this team’s long term time schedule. When Zion hits his prime Jrue will be on the cusp of retirement or only a few seasons out.

But as is he has all the qualities you want in a veteran to show our young guys like Zion the ropes the right way. But I do think you have to consider what he could fetch next season. In what will be a paltry FA class and teams looking to add a proven veteran to get them over the jump into serious contender.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:10 pm to
I'd make inquiries at the deadline

Some team might get desperate now that the west is wide open
Posted by xCptNemo
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:12 pm to
Some people are just asking for downvotes.
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:18 pm to
This is what happens when 2k is life.
Posted by LSU_30A
Member since Jan 2019
2921 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:29 pm to
Because you need a team leader and he’s also a lock down defender. He’s part of Zion’s growth.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116201 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:31 pm to
If you draft Culver and he turns out to be a good SG then obviously you consider it next year or year after depending on the haul.

But teams full of a rookies have a tendency to never get good. Ever.

You need a mix of high quality vets, young potential guys, rookies, future draft picks to build a successful roster. You want guys of various levels of progression and contracts.

Having 5 rookies on a team is insanely stupid.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Trade Jrue Holiday


Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:34 pm to
Shut the frick up and go post somewhere else please, thanks
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:35 pm to
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Perception


You have none you fricking troll
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6110 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:40 pm to
This is one of the many reasons the Suns haven’t made the playoffs since Nixon was in the White House


You need vet leadership and you need FO leadership. You can’t just add top 5 pick after top 5 pick
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 9:41 pm
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9628 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:48 pm to
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U pay the vets the vet minimum to teach the rookies experience


Yeah, this doesn't work.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:59 pm to
Im not saying you don’t have vets on the team to lead the young guys, but people need to be realistic.

Jrue has three years left on his contract. He will be going on 32 at that point.

The Pels will likely be caught in a situation where Jrue wants to cash out one last time.

If you are Griffin, are you wanting to pay 20 - 30 million a year for 4 years to a guy that will be on the decline and likely an anchor come the second half of his next contract? As Zion is going into his prime? Who might even demand a max otherwise he will go to a ready made contender?

These are the realities of having a guy that is not on our time schedule. As the other option is you play out his contract and risk letting him walk.

Now if I’m a GM and have the fortune of thinking long-term, I don’t know how you convince me that Jrue does not need to be shopped in the 2021 season barring us on a championship trajectory.
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 10:10 pm
Posted by roguepelican
Member since Jan 2019
1507 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 10:06 pm to
eat a bag of dicks
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
19277 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 10:06 pm to
Zion will be the face of the franchise but Jrue will be our leader
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21950 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:11 pm to
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U pay the vets the vet minimum to teach the rookies experience
Vets who play for the vet minimum are either career bench guys who were never major contributors (and rookies won’t really look up to or take seriously) or they’re at the end of their career and ring chasing (which means they aren’t coming here to be a positive vet influence on a team full of youngsters that are still learning the NBA).
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
3702 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:36 pm to
Jrue is more of a combo guard than point and prefers to play off the ball
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