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re: The race for 8th.... where we stand (Updated 3/11)
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:19 pm to jprdbulldog20
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:19 pm to jprdbulldog20
We can never get any help
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Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:53 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:
But yeah, if we win them both, we'll go into the break as the favorites for the #8 seed.
if okc hits a rough patch later 7th is possible.
Cp3 really earning his 30 or 40 million. He does his hammy like usual - 7th is there for the taking.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:28 am to 504Voodoo
I’ve seen nothing that would cause me to under-estimate Pop and the Spurs when things really are on the line. The Pels have to put together a consistent stretch of games tha reflects the best of their play of the last 2-
4 weeks. Again, it’s about consistency.
4 weeks. Again, it’s about consistency.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 8:40 am to VOR
Dallas is tumbling down during luka injury. Now in 7th. Unless they get porzingas and luka both healthy they can be caught.
Getting zion in peak condition should make pels a factor for playoffs the minute he is.
Beat portland. They think they are supposed to be in playoffs. Step on them before they get collins back.
Portland has back to back v pels then memphis who is off today.
Getting zion in peak condition should make pels a factor for playoffs the minute he is.
Beat portland. They think they are supposed to be in playoffs. Step on them before they get collins back.
Portland has back to back v pels then memphis who is off today.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:38 am to CelticDog
quote:
If the league went 1-16 seeding the Pelicans would be 2 games behind Brooklyn for the 16th seed. But, y'all really wanna see ORLANDO in the playoffs so we're not ready for that conversation.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:51 am to Soggymoss
From Tankathon, remaining schedule difficulty:
1. MEM
19. SAS
25. POR
28. NOP
1. MEM
19. SAS
25. POR
28. NOP
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:04 am to GOP_Tiger
pels next ten
vs POR
vs OKC
(ASB)
@ POR
@ GSW
@ LAL
vs CLE
vs LAL
vs MIN
@ DAL
vs MIA
besides the laker games i think you could easily describe the remaining 8 as "must win" if they are to catch POR & MEM
vs POR
vs OKC
(ASB)
@ POR
@ GSW
@ LAL
vs CLE
vs LAL
vs MIN
@ DAL
vs MIA
besides the laker games i think you could easily describe the remaining 8 as "must win" if they are to catch POR & MEM
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:12 am to cgrand
PDX game on Tuesday is hypercritical.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:39 am to cgrand
quote:
pels next ten
vs POR
vs OKC
(ASB)
@ POR
@ GSW
@ LAL
vs CLE
vs LAL
vs MIN
@ DAL
vs MIA
besides the laker games i think you could easily describe the remaining 8 as "must win" if they are to catch POR & MEM
I wouldn't call them all "must win".
The 2 games against Portland are critical, and we must win 1 of them.
Other than that there are a couple games (GSW, CLE, MIN) we should win handily, and losing any of those 3 put us in a bind. Other than that the realistic goal should be to remain within striking distance by the time our last 15 come around.
Memphis will lose quite a few games with their remaining schedule, its taking care of Portland and SAS that are my main concerns now.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:42 am to LSU_504
quote:
Other than that the realistic goal should be to remain within striking distance by the time our last 15 come around.
those games will only matter if they catch up.
only way to catch up is to go on a run
if not now, when?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:48 am to cgrand
quote:It certainly won't be easy.
those games will only matter if they catch up.
only way to catch up is to go on a run
if not now, when?
We're back 5 now and equally important, we have 3 teams we need to pass.
We have a tough stretch coming up, then as we all know, the final 15 should be pretty easy.
But we 100% need to dig into those 5 games before the easy stretch or it likely won't matter. if we can get it down to 3 games, we have a legit shot. if it's still around 5 games with 15 to go, it'll be a really looooong shot.
So to answer your question, it doesn't matter when that run comes, it can come at the end of the season. The real issue is the 5 game/3 team gap that needs to close a bit before we get to the final 15.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:48 am to LSU_504
For reference on Memphis and why I'm not concerned about them at all:
We've already blown them out twice. No reason to believe we wont win the next 2 against them.
Memphis next 10:
Vs POR
@ SAC
@ LAL
@ LAC
@ Houston
Vs SAC
Vs LAL
@ ATL
@ BKN
@ Dal
I'd bet they lose 6 of these at minimum. 7 if Luca is back by 3/06.
It doesn't get any easier for them after that either.
Memphis full Schedule
We've already blown them out twice. No reason to believe we wont win the next 2 against them.
Memphis next 10:
Vs POR
@ SAC
@ LAL
@ LAC
@ Houston
Vs SAC
Vs LAL
@ ATL
@ BKN
@ Dal
I'd bet they lose 6 of these at minimum. 7 if Luca is back by 3/06.
It doesn't get any easier for them after that either.
Memphis full Schedule
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:51 am to LSU_504
quote:Their next 10 is probably just as tough as our next 10 if I recall.
Memphis will lose quite a few games with their remaining schedule
POR's is pretty easy, their entire schedule is on par with ours in terms of being pretty soft. That, as you said, makes these 2 upcoming games with them critical. Lose both, and I don't know we can make up that ground without them falling pretty hard. Split, and that's ok, will still have a lot of work to do. Win both, and we're basically in a dead heat with a slightly easier schedule than POR.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:53 am to LSU_504
quote:Their schedule is brutal. Toughest in the league the rest of the way, avg winning % of .554 for their last 29 games.
It doesn't get any easier for them after that either.
Shoot, looking at their 6 easiest remaining games based on win %, the Pels are actually their 6th easiest game left.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:54 am to LSU_504
MEM shot 16% from 3, looked like complete arse all game, and still won a road game last night. they are currently 5 games up
waiting for them to crater i think is a fools errand.
pels must go on a run, now.
waiting for them to crater i think is a fools errand.
pels must go on a run, now.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:02 am to cgrand
quote:We may all be arguing semantics.
MEM shot 16% from 3, looked like complete arse all game, and still won a road game last night. they are currently 5 games up
waiting for them to crater i think is a fools errand.
pels must go on a run, now.
Looking at the final 15 games, I think we can realistically be 3 games better than Memphis. I also think it could be more, but that's a realistic spot to put it IMO.
So we don't necessarily need some big run, we just need to be a couple of games better than them.
I don't agree with that poster stating they'll lose 6 at a minimum, but it's definitely in play. I'd say 5-5 ish is likely for them.
Problem is, I don't think we go 7-3 over our next 10, which just speaks to how tough it is to make up 5 games.
But there's certainly a world where they can go 4-6, we go 6-4 and we're right in striking distance coming down the stretch.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:05 am to cgrand
quote:
waiting for them to crater i think is a fools errand
If they don't, we aren't making the playoffs anyway. They have to have a losing streak just as much as we need to have a real winning streak.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:08 am to LSU_504
quote:This
If they don't, we aren't making the playoffs anyway. They have to have a losing streak just as much as we need to have a real winning streak.
Short of us going on a streak that really isn't likely, winning 12 in a row or 14 of 15, we need Memphis to have some kind of realistic losing streak as well as us have a realistic winning streak.
For example, we can finish out the season 19-10. Sounds great, is pretty darn good. it would get us to 41-41. And if we did that, Memphis would only need to go 15-14 to still edge us out.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:10 am to shel311
quote:
Problem is, I don't think we go 7-3 over our next 10, which just speaks to how tough it is to make up 5 games.
which is my point, semantics aside.
if they don't go 7-3 for example, i think the race is over.
just to use a recent example, in 2018 they won 10 straight right around the all star break to get back into contention. they are not currently "in contention" with three teams and 5 games ahead of them, despite the conversation we are having
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:14 am to cgrand
quote:We can go 6-4, Memphis can go 4-6.
which is my point, semantics aside.
if they don't go 7-3 for example, i think the race is over.
MEM can realistically go 3-7, it wouldn't be THAT shocking.
I guess what I'm saying to your point that we "have" to go on a run is that not necessarily, we can also stand pat while Memphis goes on a downswing.
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