One simple fix that would easily improve this team

Dyson’s defense is needed in some way. Willie needs to mix him in there.

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I think we should trade Jonas Valanciunas and get more of a shot blocker in the middle

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Who and how much are you willing to give up?

Yeah I still love JV. Zion really needs to lock in and understand that his defensive awareness will make or break us. If Zion starts playing defense with the tenacity he displays on offense, he and JV can exist a lot better together.

You would give up that Laker pick that’s likely going to be top 5?

What an idiot

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There's nothing out there that's better than JV with his contract and production.

If you want to trade for a big, they should be looking at the value bin using Hayes contract.

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This is the correct answer. Do you guys not remember the Asik contract? If we traded a 1st for Turner or Poetl they'd probably get overpaid by a decent amount if we kept them.

Generally speaking when you trade a pick for an expiring player you're giving that player lots of leverage. Griff actually has a good track record with this getting decent deals for JV/CJ/Nance, but I think all 3 liked their fit and are at a stage in their career where that was more important than maximizing money.

I say upgrading Billy/Jax is the bigger(more realistic) priority right now.

Val is fine if he can accept the more limited role he’s getting. But bringing in a Olynyk/Holmes/Bryant/Bamba would help shore up the big position better than Jax/Billy, and be nice insurance for Nance.

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would give up that Laker pick that’s likely going to be top 5?

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it might be top 8. it might be #3.
let the trading partner hallucinate getting wembayana.
pels had #4. how did that pick turn out?

I get turner.
they get Val who can't defend perimeter or especially the pick n roll.
they get hope.

I don't do this deal for laker 23 pick if the nba rules prevent me from negotiating turners deal until after the season.

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And for that you’re trading away a top end lottery pick from what’s currently the 2nd worst team in the NBA.

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I think we should have a "lively" discussion...before deciding what our future plans are...for that rim-protecting 5 position.

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someone that’s not really as good as people make him out to be

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Turner is labeled a 3 Point Shooter and Rim Protector, and he is those things, but that's about all he is. He's got just as many flaws to his game as JV, they're just different at what they're good and bad at.

Turner is a bad rebounder for his position. You know how we all complain about how Jaxson doesn't rebound or box out? Jaxson's career TRB% is 13.1%, Turner's is 12.9%. He's as bad of a rebounder as Jaxson.

If we trade for him people would watch the 2nd chance points go up and be ready trade Turner for someone else. Maybe next time we should get someone that can protect the paint and rebound, like Steven Adams

You won't find a player that's actually better than JV in our price range, you'd just be giving up assets for a lateral or worse move. You guys think it's a better fit because all you are focused on are the holes he covers, not the holes he opens up.

The move to make is to aim lower and try to develop someone. Maybe our Eurostash Matkovic turns into something and you trade for a stop gap like Noel in the interim.

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Turner is labeled a 3 Point Shooter

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And he’s not even that good there, 35% for his career, with 2 good years inflating those stats, and hovers around 33% the rest of the time.

Compare that to someone you can get for a minimum like Meyers Leonard who shoots 40+ for his career, and has had seasons at 45%