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re: Nice article on just how good DD has been this year.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:45 pm to spaghettioeauxs
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:45 pm to spaghettioeauxs
He’s scoring more than Herb last year at the same fg%. No one thought that was possible last year by the comments. But hey let’s double down on stupidity.
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:53 pm to Townedrunkard
He's a better defending, worse shooting Lonzo. That's kind of what we had pegged him at becoming.
When this team's biggest need is/was PG and you already have Herb locked up cheaper than what Dyson will likely get on his 2nd contract, you still take the guy who was a 21/9/8 All Star PG every time.
We agree that Dyson is a good player but I'm going to disagree that they Pels shouldn't have traded him. He was stuck behind the Pels logjam of wings. His value was not going to get better and his spot on the depth chart was not going to improve much. It would end up being a Lonzo situation all over again if you kept him. For once Griff actually traded high and that's the one you piss and moan about.
When this team's biggest need is/was PG and you already have Herb locked up cheaper than what Dyson will likely get on his 2nd contract, you still take the guy who was a 21/9/8 All Star PG every time.
We agree that Dyson is a good player but I'm going to disagree that they Pels shouldn't have traded him. He was stuck behind the Pels logjam of wings. His value was not going to get better and his spot on the depth chart was not going to improve much. It would end up being a Lonzo situation all over again if you kept him. For once Griff actually traded high and that's the one you piss and moan about.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 4:59 pm to Townedrunkard
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He’s scoring more than Herb last year at the same fg%.
Cut the rudimentary stats out.
Herb was a far better 3pt shooter last year and a far better ft shooter. That matters in the nba
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:03 am to spaghettioeauxs
And the same pundits were roasting the Hawks when the trade happened. Look it up.
The trade looks horrible because Herb and Dejounte both had season ending injuries while Dyson took a step forward. Of course Dyson was a real prospect. That's the only reason ATL would make that trade after the ransom they gave up to get Murray from San Antonio.
The only fair criticism I may make is that the Hawks were initially hot for Herb. I argued at the time that having Dyson on the roster allowed you to consider trading Herb, but only if the deal included Okongwu, solving the Pels problem at center. It looked like Atlanta wanted Herb so much to pair with Trey that they might do a deal taking Brandon & Herb for Murray & Okongwu. I would have made that deal.
The trade looks horrible because Herb and Dejounte both had season ending injuries while Dyson took a step forward. Of course Dyson was a real prospect. That's the only reason ATL would make that trade after the ransom they gave up to get Murray from San Antonio.
The only fair criticism I may make is that the Hawks were initially hot for Herb. I argued at the time that having Dyson on the roster allowed you to consider trading Herb, but only if the deal included Okongwu, solving the Pels problem at center. It looked like Atlanta wanted Herb so much to pair with Trey that they might do a deal taking Brandon & Herb for Murray & Okongwu. I would have made that deal.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:09 am to New City Champ
DD: 7.7mil next year to Herb's 13.9mil
the following year, he will be a FA (age 23) and Herb will be in his last year costing 14.9mil (age 28)
It'll be interesting to see what DD's value is going to be.
at 4/120mil (30mil annual) would that still be preferable to Herb's even at their age at the time?
the following year, he will be a FA (age 23) and Herb will be in his last year costing 14.9mil (age 28)
It'll be interesting to see what DD's value is going to be.
at 4/120mil (30mil annual) would that still be preferable to Herb's even at their age at the time?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:58 am to Townedrunkard
I love DD, but he’ll never win DPOY because people who actually watch the games know that he’s actually a very mid on ball defender. He gets his “stocks” from lane steals and help side/chase down blocks. He’s a good defender for that reason. But won’t ever win DOY unless and until his on ball defense matches his help side defense.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:00 am to Townedrunkard
You're so full of shite.. I knew this I knew that, you didn't know shite.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:10 am to TigerBait2008
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You're so full of shite.. I knew this I knew that, you didn't know shite.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:30 pm to Townedrunkard
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you loved the trade
I'm glad we at least tried something. You win some, you lose some (except Griff, he just seems to lose)
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:47 pm to Townedrunkard
He wanted out. Dude is a great defender who will stay in the league for a long time being a shutdown wing, even if he doesn’t advance his scoring numbers.
Dmurray wanted out too. Was a gamble that still allowed griff to juggle zion\bi\mc. I hate it for pels but dd wasn’t playing injury chairs anymore. So good for dd.
Dmurray wanted out too. Was a gamble that still allowed griff to juggle zion\bi\mc. I hate it for pels but dd wasn’t playing injury chairs anymore. So good for dd.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:02 am to TigerBait2008
Why don’t you reread this thread or many other DD threads and get back to me.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=116182091&s=2&p=113928402#116182091
Some highlights
All upvotes, zero downvotes
9 upvotes one downvote
All upvotes zero downvotes
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=116182091&s=2&p=113928402#116182091
Some highlights
quote:33 upvotes 1 downvote
Win now. Dyson is not good, y’all are insane
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I think Dyson is going to take longer than most to be a guy
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quote:87 upvotes zero downvotes
Dyson’s offense may never be good enough to make him a viable player
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This board overrates Dyson so much
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You guys are idiots if you think we are on the wrong side of this move
quote:20 upvotes zero downvotes with this gem from whatiknowsofar who got his wish this season
No Dyson means more Hawk too......
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I don’t think we got fleeced at all. Dyson will never be anything,
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Wow Griff shoukd be charged for theft. Thats freaking ridiculous.
All upvotes zero downvotes
This post was edited on 4/10/25 at 12:48 am
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:32 am to theducks
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Where was I wrong? I guess we’ll see if he’s voted DPOY, since he’s “…already the best perimeter defensive player in the league”
Came out 2nd, highest perimeter defender voted in the league.
Townedrunkard was right on the money once again…..
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 8:33 am
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