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re: Name the FA's Monty/Demps/Loomis have courted in their careers

Posted on 7/6/12 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/6/12 at 10:03 pm to
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Suns have improved their team with Dragic and possibly Beasley (if his head is in the right place), so an unprotected first rounder isn't as valuable as it would have been a few days ago.


they'd be minus there big man, and add an injury prone Gordon in a tough west conference.

id think that is a late lottery team at worst
Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 7/6/12 at 10:07 pm to
Yeah, Gortat is great, but that trade would basically be a matter of betting on Gordon staying healthy (keeping him) or getting injured again (trading him). If Gordon misses 30+ games, the Suns have one of the 5 worst records in the NBA.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/6/12 at 10:08 pm to
id like to have more flexibility in trading Gordon, but if it absolutely has to happen, i guess that deal would suffice
Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 7/6/12 at 10:18 pm to
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id like to have more flexibility in trading Gordon


How do you mean? Financial flexibility? Because if Phoenix has the cap space to do a Gordon for Gortat deal (plus whatever pick), that would save us about $5-6m next season and would pretty easily allow us to go after two max contracts.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/6/12 at 10:19 pm to
flexibility meaning being able to openly trade him to another team
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 7/6/12 at 10:25 pm to
I'd rather keep Gordon for another year and try to unload him than take anything PHO has to offer.

Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 7/6/12 at 10:26 pm to
Ah, gotcha. If Demps is considering trading EG at all, I'm sure he's working plenty of teams right now, but time is limited if he wants it done this season.
This post was edited on 7/6/12 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/6/12 at 10:31 pm to
Gordon just has veto power, unless there is another team he'd go to instead of PHO
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 8:07 am to
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A uber talented 23 year old SG








Horne-tards are insane with this



9 games cause he had a boo-boo certainly is uber something


laying the blame with DellMonty is fricking rich, like a choco mousse
Posted by drake20
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 8:10 am to
Eric Gordon is pretty talented...he's a top 10 scorer
Posted by SizeMatters
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 8:18 am to
Maybe Dell decided he doesn't want to sign him to a max deal because of personality and history of injury. So they sit back and let him make an arse out of himself so the fan base would be on board in trading him, but at the same time continuing to say that we will match any offer so we can get the max back in a trade.
This post was edited on 7/7/12 at 8:19 am
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 8:27 am to
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They didn't foresee this possibly happening? Would a more experienced GM had seen this? A uber talented 23 year old SG who can take over a game commanding offers in restricted free agency? is it that far fetched that maybe they need to do a sell job of their own?




Those are all decent questions. Here's the thing, though, all we really have to go on are public statements and news reports. None of us, as far as I know, are privy to discussions and events behind the scenes.

As far as the original offer of an extension made by the Hornets during the season, I can't see how anyone can say it was "insulting" or "unreasonable" under the circumstances. The guy was still proving himself . . . and, really, he still has something to prove to the Hornets and the rest of the league. I don't fault the Hornets for making the offer and allowing Gordon to test the market.

Now perhaps Demps should have said some more encouraging things to Gordon in private. I have no idea what he told him. But I'm skeptical of Gordon's as gospel. And, frankly, they are symptomatic of the diva mentality in most of pro sports. I'm not saying Gordon is a bad guy or won't play hard for the Hornets. But perhaps both sides could have handled the situation better.
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 8:27 am to
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Eric Gordon is pretty talented.


I agree. He deserves to play in a pretty good city.
Posted by PortCityTiger82
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 8:42 am to
now this would be an interesting twist to this saga!

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Maybe Dell decided he doesn't want to sign him to a max deal because of personality and history of injury. So they sit back and let him make an arse out of himself so the fan base would be on board in trading him, but at the same time continuing to say that we will match any offer so we can get the max back in a trade.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 8:42 am to
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Maybe Dell decided he doesn't want to sign him to a max deal because of personality and history of injury. So they sit back and let him make an arse out of himself so the fan base would be on board in trading him, but at the same time continuing to say that we will match any offer so we can get the max back in a trade.


works for me


here is a fact- EG wanted a max deal offered after playing 2- TWO games for the hornets

If EG was a once a decade player, i.e. Davis, then I would get everyone moaning and groaning

but he's not. He's a pretty good player....like many others that are available or will be available in the future

If the dude doesn't want to be here, which he has shown from day one.......then I don't care to have him on the team that I pay for tickets and support

people act like he is a once in a lifetime player......Eric Gordon's come around every year, he can certainly be replaced by someone who wants to play in NOLA

Austin Rivers WANTS to be here, I am good with that....there are and will be others that want to be here


so Dell needs to work a deal and move on, Eric Gordon is NOT the key to the Hornets winning championships
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 8:46 am to
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so Dell needs to work a deal and move on, Eric Gordon is NOT the key to the Hornets winning championships


Unless we see some amazing change of heart and durability, I agree. But it also may be true to get the best possible deal . . . even if it's not immediately . . . you have to match the offer.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 8:49 am to
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you have to match the offer



100% agree


I just hope they are trying to get Phoenix to retract offer and make a solid trade if they and he want to be together so badly
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 8:49 am to
exactly.. I say keep this poison away from our rookies and move forward without him. I really feel our team is moving in the right direction and it wont be long until we can start to attract some big names in free agency.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 7/7/12 at 8:52 am to
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keep this poison away from our rookies



bitching about drafting Rivers isn't the best foot to start off on as far as being a teammates and leader, JMO


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attract some big names in free agency


next year is so huge, this year is meh to me
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
7008 posts
Posted on 7/7/12 at 9:01 am to
same here.. i just hope the fans jump on the rebuild from the start. wouldnt it be so sweet if a few years from now Rivers would be outshining Gordon and make him his bitch!
This post was edited on 7/7/12 at 9:04 am
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