re: Mark Cuban pissed at Hornets Trade

even though deadline over I still feel like somebody is coming on soon. All the drama at Detroit makes me think maybe the reason why Demps backed out of the deal because one of them might be bought out.

Great defense

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If he has a point than the Hornets should just forfeit the rest of their games and be contracted now

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not taking on money isn't the same as contracting

and i was curious as to how the league could justify taking on salaries from an insolvent organizzation

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If we cant pick up a few million in salary while still being under the luxury tax, then we arent competing on the same playing field.

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the hornets shouldn't be competing on the same field. i mean we are the only team without a fricking owners

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And if thats thte case, the league made a terrible decision buying the team and we shouldnt be playing games at all.

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they only bought the team to hopefully preserve the values of their franchises, not to help the hornets out

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league ownership of a team would truly be a sham.

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league ownership of a team IS a fricking sham

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it takes a dollar to make a dollar

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i think the last thing a potential buyer of a bankrupt asset wants to see is more liabilities added on to that asset

however, this is a short/long con kind of thing. i'm pretty sure landry is west's replacement and we're letting west walk this year. that will likely save $5-6M per year and a total liability of $25M+

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This is just like flipping a distressed house, only the league was already a partial investor in the property so there is extra motivation to sell it for a good price

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but the salary we took on was short-term, unless my theorized plan to let west walk and replace him with the cheaper landry is correct

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This team needs to make a little noise in the playoffs to sell high locally which means allowing them to improve the roster.

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but the hornets aren't profitable year in, year out with their current salary levels

keeping west and landry is the only way to project the value you're claiming, but unless we could guarantee a playoff run every year with them, then we wouldn't be moving towards profitability

i doubt we keep landry and west (esp west. he likely will want too much and, more importantly, too many years). so that extra salary we took on is just going to be millions guys like cuban have to pay

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keeping west and landry is the only way to project the value you're claiming, but unless we could guarantee a playoff run every year with them, then we wouldn't be moving towards profitability

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I think if you can keep this core together and improve it with FAs, injury is the only thing that keeps them from being a regular playoff team. The 07-08 team falling apart due to injury is what derailed the team's ticket sales last year and owner/CP3 uncertainty is what killed them this year. If the Hornets make noise in the playoffs and CP3 keeps saying he loves his coach and they are the best in the league I see no reason to think ticket sales won't be strong going forward.

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so that extra salary we took on is just going to be millions guys like cuban have to pay

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First, someone threw out some quick prorated math in an article I saw saying the prorated amount would be less than $30k per team, so "guys like Cuban" aren't losing millions over Carl Landry. Second, Stern has planned to sell this team for a profit from the beginning and I believe he'll get it. He'd prefer to get it from local owners but worse comes to worse Larry Ellison will always be there. The owners will get their money back and then some so Cuban has no leg to stand on. I understand why he went into whiny bitch mode, it actually helps his team so he was being a good owner, he just had to look like a whiny bitch with a stupid argument to do it.

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I think if you can keep this core together and improve it with FAs, injury is the only thing that keeps them from being a regular playoff team.

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how can they improve this team through FA?

no cap room, no money to spend also

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The 07-08 team falling apart due to injury is what derailed the team's ticket sales last year

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that year is the outlier

peja, chandler, west, and cp3 were relatively injury-free (shocker for 3 of those 4) and played at elite levels

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Second, Stern has planned to sell this team for a profit from the beginning and I believe he'll get it.

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i don't

it's not about selling for profit. it's about making sure somebody didn't buy this team for $75-100M (with some debt assumption) and frick the values of all other teams

THAT'S IT

it's not about the league. it's not about the hornets. it's not about nola. it's to ensure that there wasn't a domino effect in miluake, sacremento, cleveland, charlotte, minnesota, etc which would deflate all NBA franchise values by 30-50%

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THAT'S IT

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That may have been why they got in, but the question now is where do you go from here. The answer appears to be

1) Let the team improve within reason, thus the approval of the Landry trade but disapproval of taking on Rush's salary which would have put them slightly over the tax threshold.
2) Bully the local/state government into more concessions for the team.
3) Threaten to contract the team to get a better CBA.
4) Sell the team back to Chouest and an investor group with a more favorable CBA, better lease, and improved corporate sponsorship and season ticket base.
5) Get back all the money Shinn owed you plus a $10 - $15 million premium over the $300 million Chouest previously agreed to for the franchise before it was flipped for the better.