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re: Lonzo more 3 attempts than JJ last night
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:16 am to Milesahead
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:16 am to Milesahead
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Is 34% considered bad now?
The attempts and the timing of them are what really kills it. When we are trying to make comebacks in the 3rd/4th quarter lonzo has already made his 2-3 attempts that he's good for. They are legit comeback killers.
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:29 am to whatiknowsofar
That’s the difference between BI and Ball. Ingram’s threes usually comes within the flow of the offense and the biggest reason why his percentages will continue to be sustainable.
Whereas Ball generally forces the shot. I think these shots would be more efficient if he eliminate some of these crazy threes he jacks up after bringing the ball up the court or the crazy inefficient step backs.
I don’t mind him taking a high volume of 3s but it needs to be in the same manner Jason Kidd gets his 3s.
Whereas Ball generally forces the shot. I think these shots would be more efficient if he eliminate some of these crazy threes he jacks up after bringing the ball up the court or the crazy inefficient step backs.
I don’t mind him taking a high volume of 3s but it needs to be in the same manner Jason Kidd gets his 3s.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:32 am to supe12sta12z
Literally only catch and shoot. Maybe around a screen if hes shooting it well.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:37 am to whatiknowsofar
If Lonzo took the same 3's that Etwaun took, he'd probably be closer to 38%.
If Etwaun took the 3's that Lonzo took, he'd be closer to 34%. Etwaun has shot over 40% in 4 of his last 5 seasons b/c he takes smart 3's and he knows who he is.
Lonzo is 37% on catch and shoot 3s taking 4 a game. He's 27% on pull up 3's taking 2 a game.
He takes about 3 threes a game early in the shot clock, over 15 seconds left, and hits them at 52%. When he takes one with less than 15 seconds left on the shot clock, which is 4 a game, he's dreadful, around 20%.
Wide open 3's, he's 37%
Anything less than wide open and he's 32%, and he takes twice as many of these.
He without a doubt has the skills to be a good NBA starter, he just refuses to play to his most efficient skills for some stupid reason, and that's on both ends of the court if you ask me.
If Etwaun took the 3's that Lonzo took, he'd be closer to 34%. Etwaun has shot over 40% in 4 of his last 5 seasons b/c he takes smart 3's and he knows who he is.
Lonzo is 37% on catch and shoot 3s taking 4 a game. He's 27% on pull up 3's taking 2 a game.
He takes about 3 threes a game early in the shot clock, over 15 seconds left, and hits them at 52%. When he takes one with less than 15 seconds left on the shot clock, which is 4 a game, he's dreadful, around 20%.
Wide open 3's, he's 37%
Anything less than wide open and he's 32%, and he takes twice as many of these.
He without a doubt has the skills to be a good NBA starter, he just refuses to play to his most efficient skills for some stupid reason, and that's on both ends of the court if you ask me.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:23 pm to TeddyPadillac
Lonzo 34% is better than Holiday and Jackson. Jackson is a shock.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:35 pm to TeddyPadillac
this offense is built for players that know what they are good at (Jrue, JJ, Favors, Etwaun, BI, Hart). built for players that know their role.
right now, Lonzo doesn't know who he is as a basketball player. I think Zo sees himself as one thing & the coaches are telling him to be something different. The outcome is a guy that jacks up ill-advised 3 pointers, looks too hesitant with the ball, and just looks plain uncomfortable.
if you don't see the potential Zo has, you're just not watching. and to give up on him at any point this season is foolish. he has a long way to go, and he has to figure this out sooner rather than later, but he's got too much potential
right now, Lonzo doesn't know who he is as a basketball player. I think Zo sees himself as one thing & the coaches are telling him to be something different. The outcome is a guy that jacks up ill-advised 3 pointers, looks too hesitant with the ball, and just looks plain uncomfortable.
if you don't see the potential Zo has, you're just not watching. and to give up on him at any point this season is foolish. he has a long way to go, and he has to figure this out sooner rather than later, but he's got too much potential
Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:14 pm to ErikGordan
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Jackson is a shock.
Frank was playing really well to start the season, but he's really been in a shooting slump the last few games. And his defense is bad enough that we really can't afford to have him on the court unless he's scoring.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:24 pm to DeionDeion
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this offense is built for players that know what they are good at
You could say that about every player on every team in every sport.
This is professional sports, not high school, not AAU, and not the And1 Tour. You do what you're best at to help the team win. You don't try to be something you're not, or do things that aren't helpful to your team winning.
I've said many times that there is without a doubt potential with Lonzo.
Lots of guys have potential and never realize how to use it to the maximum. I'm not saying Lonzo will never figure it out, but i'm not interested in waiting around for it, and that's a pretty harsh statement considering our position as a young team.
Even if he becomes a smarter and more efficient player, i still don't see those skill sets gelling with the construction of this team and what we want to do on offense.
he can shoot 40% from three, and it still won't be that much different than what he's doing now if he doesn't figure out how to move without the basketball and drive to the goal. Those are skills that i think are very hard to learn how to do at this point in his career. You either have a feel for it or you don't. you shouldn't have to think about where you should be when someone drives baseline. It should be second nature that someone gets to the opposite corner 3 and someone flashes near the free throw line and someone releases out back as a safety valve and defense in case of a turnover. You don't have time to practice things like that constantly so it becomes second nature in the NBA. That's something you should already know simply by having a feel for the game, and/or you've been coached to death on throughout high school and college.
I know he knows what he should be doing, but for whatever reason he gets in the game and doesn't do it. You hear the things he says about his own game, and you hear the things other players say about his knowledge of the game and see him explaining things to guys in games. He seems like a good coach, and crappy player.
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