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re: Lakers pursuing Dan Hurley

Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:37 am to
Posted by Baron
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:37 am to
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Money talks though, depends on what the Lakers offer.


Absolutely true. But what is also absolutely true is that the Lakers are a much poorer franchise than you would think. They’ve gone cheap on the last few hires, including refusing to meet Ty Lue’s demands in 2019.

I could easily be wrong, but it feels like an “oh well, we tried” situation to me and they end up with JJ.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:48 am to
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Absolutely true. But what is also absolutely true is that the Lakers are a much poorer franchise than you would think. They’ve gone cheap on the last few hires, including refusing to meet Ty Lue’s demands in 2019. I could easily be wrong, but it feels like an “oh well, we tried” situation to me and they end up with JJ.


You’re right they have been in the past. But Hurley wouldn’t be interested unless they were in his range. Woj just stated they’re prepared to offer a pretty big financially and lengthy commitment to him.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:26 pm to
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Still a chance Hurley could be leveraging this while thing to get a big contract from UConn

I actually think it's more likely the Lakers bluffing to make it look like they exhausted all options before coming back around on JJ. Woj made it sound like they still have more courting to do, which would be odd with them having this opening for this long. Almost made it seem like they just thought of his name a few days ago when the JJ/Borrego talk has been out for damn near a month.
He had Kentucky to leverage against Uconn so he probably tapped out that well for the offseason.
This post was edited on 6/6/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:44 pm to
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Woj made it sound like they still have more courting to do, which would be odd with them having this opening for this long. Almost made it seem like they just thought of his name a few days ago when the JJ/Borrego talk has been out for damn near a month.


Did he? I just saw him with Stephen A state that they want to make a big financial and lengthy commitment to him similar to the offer they made to Coach K years back. Look for our pick next year and for the Lakers to suck, I want Hurley to turn it down. But hes just won two titles at UConn and has expressed his desire to be in the NBA- I feel like he’s going to take the job.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 1:21 pm to
JJ is probably a better head coaching candidate for the NBA tbh. College coaches have a tough time transitioning and getting respect from NBA players. Redick knows ball and he will get natural respect since he’s a former player. Lebron and AD are going to get Hurley fired by game 40. I don’t see his personality meshing well with “King James”. This would be similar to a David Blatt situation and JJ would be the coach anyway by midseason. (IE: Blatt and Tyron Lue).
Posted by Parrish
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 1:47 pm to
David Blatt is also the counter to "results matter." Blatt coached the Cavs to the Finals in year one and was fired in year 2 mid-season when Cavs had the EC best record. What matters is whatever LeBron thinks.

What Lebron seems like it'd matter for the Lakers. How much faith does LeBron *really* have in JJ? Does he want to bet his age 40 season on JJ or someone who at least has proven to be successful somewhere, like Hurley? Even if Hurley is a gamble, he still seems like the safer gamble for LeBron, compared to JJ.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Did he? I just saw him with Stephen A state that they want to make a big financial and lengthy commitment to him similar to the offer they made to Coach K years back.

On Get Up he sounded less imminent IMO. Woj is shitty on TV though so he could be rambling both ways.
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. Look for our pick next year and for the Lakers to suck, I want Hurley to turn it down.

College coaches have been more sketchy than first time guys and Hurley's personality seems somewhat abrasive. He could go either way with a veteran team like that.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 2:32 pm to
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JJ is probably a better head coaching candidate for the NBA tbh. College coaches have a tough time transitioning and getting respect from NBA players. Redick knows ball and he will get natural respect since he’s a former player. Lebron and AD are going to get Hurley fired by game 40. I don’t see his personality meshing well with “King James”. This would be similar to a David Blatt situation and JJ would be the coach anyway by midseason. (IE: Blatt and Tyron Lue).


JJ is not a better candidate than Hurley. What are we comparing a decorated college basketball coach who was won multiple titles to a guy whos claim to fame is podcast and broadcasting?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 2:38 pm to
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College coaches have been more sketchy than first time guys and Hurley's personality seems somewhat abrasive. He could go either way with a veteran team like that.


Putting aside his brash personality, Hurley wins on tactical stuff and strategy. He has recruits but a lot of his guys grow into NBA guys which shows his development aspect. When I see Hurley I see a guy more in the mold of Donovan, Brad Stevens and even Larry Brown.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 2:43 pm to
We don't know if it'll work with either or any coaches for that matter. Hurley is obviously world's more qualified.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 2:46 pm to
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Hurley is obviously world's more qualified.


Yup which sucks. If we want the Lakers to suck I rather they go with a guy who has absolutely no coaching experience on his resume.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 2:46 pm to
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Putting aside his brash personality, Hurley wins on tactical stuff and strategy. He has recruits but a lot of his guys grow into NBA guys which shows his development aspect. When I see Hurley I see a guy more in the mold of Donovan, Brad Stevens and even Larry Brown.

John Beilein was like that too. And how focused are Lebron and AD on development?
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 2:49 pm to
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And how focused are Lebron and AD on development?


Obviously not them. But if guys like Reaves, Rui, Christie can improve it would do wonders for that team. The problem on that team wasn’t AD or Bron- it was the “others.” AD and Bron would benefit from his strategy and systems he employs though.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:00 pm to
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Obviously not them.

But ultimately it's all about them so focusing on the younger players development probably isn't how things will go down.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:03 pm to
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But ultimately it's all about them so focusing on the younger players development probably isn't how things will go down.


I’ll disagree with you here. Bron and AD played great against the Nuggets. It was the “others” who struggled. Their development matters a lot if the lakers are more than just a play-in and gone in first round team.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:06 pm to
Doesn’t matter. LeBron is just about completely out of gas and AD is a pussy, not a leader. We just need to hang onto Borreg and actual run his system. Willie can control the defense which he’s good at but we can’t play Willlie’s brand of offense.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 6/6/24 at 3:16 pm to
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I’ll disagree with you here. Bron and AD played great against the Nuggets. It was the “others” who struggled. Their development matters a lot if the lakers are more than just a play-in and gone in first round team.

Not arguing the others playing better isn't important. I'm saying the whole thing is about those two so a hire not focused on those two isn't surefire. Hell, Lebron might make them trade Max Christie because he'd be blocking Bronny.
Posted by longhorn22
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Member since Jan 2007
42889 posts
Posted on 6/7/24 at 10:01 am to
Really need a Lakers Board and subtitle it Pels Talk

Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:13 pm to
We really need a "Lick this Dick" board for Lakers fans.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/7/24 at 1:14 pm to
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John Beilein was like that too.


Yep

And got run out of town for not coddling the divas
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