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re: Kobe > Anthony Davis?

Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:50 pm to
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bro there ain't people starting threads calling you by name when they are looking to get their bball related questions answered.


You missed the point entirely boom. I don't pretend to be some savant. I don't inflate my ego. You're not a troll. You're just a terrible poster. That's the point.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:54 pm to
No my reasoning was fine.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 4:55 pm to
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I don't pretend to be some savant.
because you aren't one

quote:

I don't inflate my ego
good

quote:

You're not a troll
correct

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You're just a terrible poster
agree to disagree, I am a great poster IMO.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:00 pm to
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No my reasoning was fine.

so Anthony Davis is playing better on average against playoff teams than lottery teams and the rest of the schedule is, using a very basic measure of SOS, practically identical to what he has played so far. however, he will regress because he won't benefit from a "soft" schedule like he has?

flawed reasoning corrections
1. 7th hardest sos =/= soft schedule
2. he has played better against tougher teams
3. schedule for rest of season is no harder than schedule so far
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:08 pm to
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7th hardest sos =/= soft schedule


7th> 17th
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31854 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:25 pm to
In 13 of 21 games, Pelicans have played playoff caliber teams with a >=.500 record, the only one being OKC which is below .500, but universally accepted as a playoff caliber team.
Those 13 games, opponents have combined for a 192-90 record (.681).

The 13 games, 10 away, 3 home
DAL x2 17-7 Home/Away
LAC 16-5 Away
GS 19-2 Away
OKC 8-13 Home
WAS 15-6 Away
ATL 15-6 Away
SAC x2 11-11 Home/Away
POR 17-5 Away
CLE 13-7 Away
SAS 16-6 Away
MEM 17-4 Away

AD has gone for:
9.5/17.2 FG (55.6%)
6.2/7.8 FT (78.4%)
10.8 RPG
1.85 APG
1.23 TOV
2.23 SPG
2.46 BPG
25.2 PPG
37.7 MPG
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:27 pm to
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Those 13 games, opponents


Should that be a comma to the top, sons?
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:28 pm to
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In 13 of 21 games, Pelicans have played playoff caliber teams with a >=.500 record


quote:

The 13 games, 10 away, 3 home


This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 5:29 pm
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:35 pm to
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anyone with them damn pelican homer glasses


I'm a Mavs fan.
Posted by rjlsu985
Slidell, la
Member since Apr 2012
130 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:52 pm to
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quote: anyone with them damn pelican homer glasses
. Then maybe I wasn't talking to you. Obviously you weren't the only one that disagreed with what jalen rose had said.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

Then maybe I wasn't talking to you.


Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:08 pm to
Now that the stats are here and he looks foolish boom disappears. Vintage boom.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:21 pm to
You mean the stats where he included OKC as a lotto team? Even though they are easily and clearly a playoff team? How about a little intelleutal honesty in the breakdown and include OKC as a playoff team. I reckon that would change the averages to be a little more accurate.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:30 pm to
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You mean the stats where he included OKC as a lotto team? Even though they are easily and clearly a playoff team? How about a little intelleutal honesty in the breakdown and include OKC as a playoff team. I reckon that would change the averages to be a little more accurate.

are you talking about me? if you are i clearly said current top 8 teams and current lotto teams, absolutely nothing dishonest about that. also if you add in okc to the top 8 it just adds to my argument as that was his 7th highest rated game. thus adding to my argument that he played better against top teams

also what a insignificant detail to choose to argue as it is almost irrelevant to the overall point
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:35 pm to
why use current top 8 when that is clearly not the best 8 teams?

If you include the games vs OKC at full strength and SAC at full strength with Cousins then the average will decrease and he will have clearly played better against bad teams than good teams but that would blow up your whole argument.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

You mean the stats where he included OKC as a lotto team?

No I meant this clear refutation of your argument.

quote:

In 13 of 21 games, Pelicans have played playoff caliber teams with a >=.500 record, the only one being OKC which is below .500, but universally accepted as a playoff caliber team.
Those 13 games, opponents have combined for a 192-90 record (.681).

The 13 games, 10 away, 3 home
DAL x2 17-7 Home/Away
LAC 16-5 Away
GS 19-2 Away
OKC 8-13 Home
WAS 15-6 Away
ATL 15-6 Away
SAC x2 11-11 Home/Away
POR 17-5 Away
CLE 13-7 Away
SAS 16-6 Away
MEM 17-4 Away

AD has gone for:
9.5/17.2 FG (55.6%)
6.2/7.8 FT (78.4%)
10.8 RPG
1.85 APG
1.23 TOV
2.23 SPG
2.46 BPG
25.2 PPG
37.7 MPG




Also Davis has a better Defensive RPM than Dwight. How about that Dwight effect? So valuable.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:36 pm to
what exactly is defensive RPM?

Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:38 pm to
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why use current top 8 when that is clearly not the best 8 teams?

If you include the games vs OKC at full strength and SAC at full strength with Cousins then the average will decrease and he will have clearly played better against bad teams than good teams but that would blow up your whole argument.

ok. tell me what teams to consider good and what to consider bad and i'll redo the calculations. i used current top 8 seeds because they are currently the top 8 seeds

absolutely no deception involved. you are trying to making it out to be a grand conspiracy i concocted to inflate the numbers.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:38 pm to
Defensive Real +-
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:42 pm to
I prefer defensive win shares

Harden 1.6
Davis 1.3

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