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Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:17 pm to burdman
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I mean it wasn't the ideal ending, no doubt. But I think it's being blown out of proportion.
We don’t really have any way of knowing this yet.
But already Hart has posted twice, once in favor of doing right by JJ, once in seemingly annoyance/anger at where we traded JJ, and he shares an agent with JJ, is a good friend, and is a FA.
If he decides to go elsewhere and cites organizational trust as a factor, yeah, this could be pretty bad.
If Lonzo and Klutch use this, even disingenuously, to try and bully and strong arm the Pels, signal boosting that reputation further, yeah, this could be bad.
Or maybe Griff goes hat in hand to various guys affected by this and fences get mended and the only things we hear going forward is how good an experience playing under Griff’s organization is.
This post was edited on 3/31/21 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:19 pm to Bronc
What if Dallas doesn't buy him out? Does the same thing apply to them?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:19 pm to Bronc
It's all of 2-3 months of JJ being somewhere else. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:20 pm to Epic Cajun
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You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Completely. This won't even be remember in the next news cycle.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:21 pm to Fun Bunch
Just needs something to get flustered about today
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:21 pm to Bronc
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If they have differences but the same dynamics still apply than this insisted upon injection is nothing more than a red herring.
Well they don't have the same dynamics so your red herring shlock is invalid. Keep trying to curve this into you being right. You're not.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:22 pm to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:23 pm to Epic Cajun
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It's all of 2-3 months of JJ being somewhere else. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Like I just said and you completely ignored, we’ll have to wait and see what, if any, substantive long-term consequences might arise from this.
But that doesn’t make how Griff handled this good or any less problematic going forward if he continues to make false promises to players, or miscommunicate expectations in a way players misperceive.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:24 pm to whatiknowsofar
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Well they don't have the same dynamics so your red herring shlock is invalid. Keep trying to curve this into you being right. You're not.
Do you even know what you are saying and what point you think you are even making?
Serious question.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:24 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:
"Really? You thought they were going to send you to the Nets like everyone else? No one cares" -
@Rjeff24
"What have you done for them? Get over it. It's a business" -
@RKHorry
Richard Jefferson and Robert Horry.
This is good for the Pels...
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:26 pm to Bronc
Only real consequence this could have is with Hart, and if he leaves we don't have to overpay him.
I love Hart but whatever he gets will be an overpay. Same with Lonzo.
If we keep them, fine. They are good players. If we lose them, fine. We can find other good players with that money.
Life keeps rolling.
I love Hart but whatever he gets will be an overpay. Same with Lonzo.
If we keep them, fine. They are good players. If we lose them, fine. We can find other good players with that money.
Life keeps rolling.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:27 pm to Fun Bunch
Did Griff ever promise to buy him out? How do we know he didn't try to trade him to a spot JJ wanted to go?
There's no way the expectation was I'm going to get paid to leave if you can't trade me to 2 or 3 teams.
There's no way the expectation was I'm going to get paid to leave if you can't trade me to 2 or 3 teams.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:27 pm to Epic Cajun
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"Listen, the one thing with me -- and I think I've been consistent about this throughout my career -- is you'll hear people say it from time to time that it's a business; well, it is. Players are going to want to do what's best for them, and they have every damn right to do that, and organizations have every damn right to do what's best for their organization. I have problems when it gets skewed that it's a business from my end, but you should not be a business on your end. That's not right. It's a business on both ends of it.
My god can we get this just permanently placed at the top of every TD page? I’ve had to make this point countless times on multiple boards and some people can never grasp it
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:27 pm to Fun Bunch
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This is good for the Pels...
Eh, don’t really think any free agent or current player on our roster is going to give a shite what a bunch of old role players think.
This is just the noise that comes out of the ether of sports talk.
Only thing that will tell us anything is if this does or does not affect future negotiations and decision-making by players
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:29 pm to Fun Bunch
Al this back and forth for a whole lotta nothing.
Players ALWAYS back other players and I just watched Richard Jefferson and Robert Horry LITERALLY laugh out loud at JJ Redick.
Griff won't even need to do one of his media blitzes over this. This is nothing.
Players ALWAYS back other players and I just watched Richard Jefferson and Robert Horry LITERALLY laugh out loud at JJ Redick.
Griff won't even need to do one of his media blitzes over this. This is nothing.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:29 pm to Bronc
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Eh, don’t really think any free agent or current player on our roster is going to give a shite what a bunch of old role players think.
Of course you don't I'd be willing to bet that a shitload of players current and former feel the same way.
Ultimately this won't matter too much.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:29 pm to burdman
The buyout was never promised. It was always going to be a last resort.
And who knows if the teams he wanted to go to wanted him.
We got a decent return. It was worth it. There was no guarantee we'd keep Hart next year regardless.
And who knows if the teams he wanted to go to wanted him.
We got a decent return. It was worth it. There was no guarantee we'd keep Hart next year regardless.
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:29 pm to Fun Bunch
I mean. Do all the current pelicans players just sit there and think:
“shite, I don’t really care if it made our team better. I’m just pissed that they messed over my friend”
Like. Are we giving the league THAT little intellectual credit?
“shite, I don’t really care if it made our team better. I’m just pissed that they messed over my friend”
Like. Are we giving the league THAT little intellectual credit?
Posted on 3/31/21 at 3:30 pm to Bronc
quote:How will we ever know? Or, are you going to look at anything bad that happens to the team in regards to free agents and blame it on this scenario without any sort of "proof"? Or are you expecting things to occur and players to come out and say, "I did this because of how you treated 37 year old JJ Redick in his last 3 months of his contract with you!"
Like I just said and you completely ignored, we’ll have to wait and see what, if any, substantive long-term consequences might arise from this.
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