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re: It’s just this simple...Pelicans need an Alpha Dog in its starting five...

Posted on 3/18/21 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by touchdownjeebus
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 5:30 pm to
I think Zion is very close to being that guy. We are so fricking close. We just need to grow and for Lavar to STFU.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 5:34 pm to
Its probably going to take 1 more offseason after this upcoming offseason to put together a roster that will allow Williamson to be the defacto closer. Without adequate spacing, it's tough for Zion to close with the ball in his hands night in and night out especially once teams adjust and double him on the perimeter.
Posted by GeauxTigersGo
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 5:35 pm to
This thread almost makes me want Draymond... and and fricking HATE draymond
Posted by Oksiyu
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 5:54 pm to
You cheated me
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 7:28 pm to
I could see Kemba as that guy again in the right spot. A lot of Boston’s players have had trouble being that role because Brown, Tatum, Kemba are all kinda that guy. And like they say, if you have 2 QB’s you have no QB’s.

That’s be probably the most available guy of that mold I could think of. A gamble though as he hasn’t looked the same guy post Charlotte.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 7:30 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24845 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 7:33 pm to
Kemba’s contract is a little tough, but I think he would work, especially if we move on from Zo.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:32 pm to
People think kemba is better than lonzo ?

Imagine Eric Bledsoe given free range to chuck. That is Kemba
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 11:28 pm to
Spencer Dinwiddie can be that guy..
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 11:38 pm to
I like Dinwiddie, but he’s a career 32% three point shooter, that ain’t getting it done on a team with Zion and Adams starting.

Dinwiddie’s strongest skillset scoring would be harmed, and both our best players would be easier to double and triple.

It’s not a good fit tbh
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 11:39 pm
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2710 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 11:50 pm to
I disagree. The guy is clutch. Go look up “Spencer Dinwiddie clutch or threes.” They got so many videos of it.

He did it against spurs, Rockets, Detroit...etc.

Even if he is a 32% career shooter, he makes them when the team needs it.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 11:53 pm
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 11:53 pm to
LINK

The best thing is how calm and collected he is.



On his leadership

LINK video

LINK article

This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:09 am to
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I disagree. The guy is clutch.


Spencer Dinwiddie clutch stats 19-20:

39% FG
8% 3P
75% ft
25asts
16 Turnovers

Cherry picked highlights are a poor way to judge a player’s overall clutch ability.

Like I said, I like Dinwiddie in a vacuum. Loved to watch those scrappy Nets teams, but he’s not the right fit for Ingram and Zion if we are stuck with Adams for three years.

It would be the same problem I warned everyone about with Bled/Zo backcourt, it’s just not a complimentary duo. You can’t have three non-shooters on the court in the modern NBA. Let alone when your two best players absolutely need spacing, and the guy you want to pair them with does as well.
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 12:15 am
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:21 am to
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He was one of the most clutch players in 2017-2018


Where do you find these stats at if you don’t mind me asking. If those are his stats, my apologies. Just seem to me that almost every game I watch of him, he was pretty clutch.


Another reason why I like Spencer is because he is a vet, well spoken, know his role, confident, players rave about his work ethic, his defense..but most important his leadership. I think with us, he can be better than a 32% 3 shooter.

Plus he won’t break the bank on us. He is probably cheaper than Lonzo also.
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 12:31 am
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:30 am to
NBA.com has synergy tracking stats for all sorts of stuff, including clutch stats(default is defined as 5 point score difference in 5 minutes or less)

Them and Cleaning the Glass are probably the best statistics sites IMO unless you just go out and get a full blown synergy subscription.

This is Dinwiddie for 17-18:

LINK

And I think an important question that you’d need to ask for Dinwiddie is, are you truly wanting to take the ball out of Zion’s hands in the clutch going forward? Because that’s sort of where this leads to.

Like I said, I really, really like Dinwiddie. Loved watching him on those scrappy Nets, I’m just not personally convinced he’s the right direction to go for our long-term fix because I don’t know that anyone is optimally off with the lack of spacing that all three of them ideally need.
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 12:32 am
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:33 am to
People will scoff, but I think Rondo would be a good leadership fit for this team. AD and Jrue were a lot more locked in when Rondo was around to make them watch film and demand greatness from themselves.

I wouldn’t say no to Draymond either. This team is extremely soft and 90% of them don’t seem like they mind losing much. We need someone to come in here to make people uncomfortable and hold them accountable.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2710 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:34 am to
Ah thank you! But the thing is he know his role. He’s not going to get the ball out of Zion hands but relieve him. I think he is more of being the floor general and putting players at the right position.

Player rave about his leadership and alpha mentality so that’s why I want him.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2710 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:38 am to
Everyone hates Green. But if he is on your team, you be ecstatic. He does all the grunt/dirty work and is all about the team and not him. I don’t think Warriors are going to move him though, those guys are hard to find.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2710 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 12:43 am to
quote:

It would be the same problem I warned everyone about with Bled/Zo backcourt, it’s just not a complimentary duo. You can’t have three non-shooters on the court in the modern NBA. Let alone when your two best players absolutely need spacing, and the guy you want to pair them with does as well.



The best complimentary guy I think for this is Zach Lavine. But will he go here though? I chose Dinwiddie because he won’t break the bank, is used to Trajan and is close with NAW
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 12:45 am
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