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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:12 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:12 am to
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I'm just discussing. None of us have any input in the process, anyway. Except for Chad. Tom Benson values Chad's input.




And it's also 100% documented that Tom Benson doesn't hold any value to Jester's since he already owns the Pelicans and already views that as a worth while rebranding idea with marketing and money making potential.
Posted by 42
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:13 am to
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And yet again, you keep missing the point. It's like trying to teach algebra to a waterhead.


Ever tried this? It's tough.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:13 am to
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No there is no point that cardinals didn't happen in new orleans. it's a highly associated name with a highly associated religion of a city. Thats not a fricking point that 100% negates a naming concept/idea.


And I offered 10 different names that do the exact same thing. Pelicans, in my opinion, is terrible, but it may happen. Cardinals is both terrible and will not happen for several reasons that you choose to ignore.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:14 am to
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To be fair, saint has a colloquial meaning in addition to the specific Catholic meaning.



There's plenty of religious "offense" to be had with "saints" as your brand.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:14 am to
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And it's also 100% documented that Tom Benson doesn't hold any value to Jester's since he already owns the Pelicans and already views that as a worth while rebranding idea with marketing and money making potential.


Wow, you can repeat what I say with a douchebag tint. You clearly win the internet.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:16 am to
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And I offered 10 different names that do the exact same thing.


Name has to carry the curb appeal and not just associate with the catholic concept. Very few of your suggestions give that curb appeal that cardinals do. Bishops are okay... not sure if any of the rest were worth a shite at least imho.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:17 am to
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Wow, you can repeat what I say with a douchebag tint. You clearly win the internet.



I'm here just to explain the proof in the puddin of why you're opinions on the rebranding concepts from our current owner's perspective are pretty worthless.
Posted by 42
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:19 am to
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There's plenty of religious "offense" to be had with "saints" as your brand.


Where is it, then?

I think you mean: I can see how that could be a problem.

It just isn't.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:21 am to
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I'm here just to explain the proof in the puddin of why you're opinions on the rebranding concepts from our current owner's perspective are pretty worthless.


You didn't prove shite, dumbass. You said something. That is it. Hell, Tom Benson may have told them to get the frick out of his office when they brought up Pelicans. If not, prove it. You can't, though, because you don't know shite.

Also, I'd be willing to bet there is someone in the organization checking message boards and blogs as a litmus test for the possible names.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:23 am to
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Where is it, then?



That's my point 42.

Posted by Jester
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:24 am to
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Very few of your suggestions give that curb appeal that cardinals do


I think you must have forgotten to post that Catholic Word Curb Appeal diagram.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:25 am to
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You didn't prove shite, dumbass. You said something. That is it. Hell, Tom Benson may have told them to get the frick out of his office when they brought up Pelicans. If not, prove it. You can't, though, because you don't know shite.



You said nobody would be pelican merchandise.

The mere fact that Benson owns the Pelican naming rights proves that he sees value in that brand, something you don't. If simple logic doesn't work for you, i'm going to have to try to find an alternative method of explanations for you.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:25 am to
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I think you must have forgotten to post that Catholic Word Curb Appeal diagram.


Its in the page right before "Things that have been done, happened or invented in New Orleans"
Posted by Jester
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:27 am to
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You said nobody would be pelican merchandise.


I most certainly did not

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The mere fact that Benson owns the Pelican naming rights proves that he sees value in that brand,


Someone also owns Spirits and Angels. It's like scooping up web domains, fool.

quote:

If simple logic doesn't work for you, i'm going to have to try to find an alternative method of explanations for you.



Nah, stick to simple. It works for you.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:29 am to
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I most certainly did not



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Sure, you save money by not having to buy a name, but you lose money because nobody is going to want your merchandise.



Fish in a barrel, fricking fish in a barrel.
Posted by 42
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:30 am to
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That's my point 42.


Never said it was offensive. Maybe someone else did.

Saints is generic enough to sidestep specific religious issues.

It's like the badarse version of the "people who generally behave well."
Posted by Jester
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:31 am to
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Its in the page right before "Things that have been done, happened or invented in New Orleans"


Which explains succinctly how little relevance a Cardinal has in New Orleans. Hell, while we're stretching, why not New Orleans Presidents? Maybe we can go New Orleans Nobel Prize Winners. How about New Orleans Yankees? Some Yankees have been to New Orleans.
Posted by 42
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:32 am to
To be clear Benson bought the brand long ago (90's?) and is maintaining LLC's tied to them.

This has a much larger value in terms of cost avoidance then just filing something with the SoS.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:33 am to
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Fish in a barrel, fricking fish in a barrel.


Sorry, I didn't realize anyone would take that statement so literally. Congrats on that one. You win the internet again.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/3/12 at 11:40 am to
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Which explains succinctly how little relevance a Cardinal has in New Orleans.


Somebody forgot to tell mr. benson when he named his professional team that all saints day wasn't' just celebrated in New orleans that it was celebrated all over and how little succinctly relevant it truly was to our city that he should have just named New Orleans the Vice Presidents or maybe the New Orleans Heismans Or the New Orleans Canadian Yucks. Some Heismans have been to New Orleans.
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