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How many minutes per game do AD and Jrue play together?

Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:59 pm
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49489 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:59 pm
I don't know how to find that info via NBA.com and the like. I could have sworn that Joel said something like 15mpg last week, but I don't remember the exact number.

If so, that's the biggest misstep in Gentry's awful Pels debut. They're obviously the future of this team. Even if it were obviously 100% better for the team right now to stagger them, Jrue needs to be playing all of his current 26mpg with AD. Get them developing their chemistry.

Also, our fans and professional "experts" across the nation need to GTFO with the whole "Pels need to package a pick or Jrue to dump Asik ASAP" bullshite. Asik has been solid for going on a month now. He's not worth his contract right now, but in a year or two it won't be that bad at all. If you can dump him easily, go for it. But don't trade anything of significant value to do it.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30091 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:00 pm to
He's worth his contract when you realize we couldn't use that money to sign anyone else anyway.

People don't understand that this isn't the nfl, the money we give to asik doesn't mean we could go out and just slap it on anyone we wanted.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49489 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

People don't understand that this isn't the nfl, the money we give to asik doesn't mean we could go out and just slap it on anyone we wanted.



If we don't re-sign Ryno and EG, we could.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30091 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:07 pm to
Different situation though!
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:09 pm to
If i'm reading it right, they play about 18mpg together.

107.2 offensive rating
105.6 defensive rating
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61449 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:11 pm to
Looking at the 2 man lineups on Basketball Reference they've played 699 minutes together. They've both played 43 games although I'm not sure if they've played the same 43, but if they did that's still just put them at 16 MPG.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49489 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:35 pm to
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105.6 defensive rating



Very disappointing. Could you tell me the ORtg/DRtg with the Jrue/AD/Asik lineup?
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:41 pm to
only like 140 mins together

too small a size
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:45 pm to
Sure here's the LINK

Just pick between the 2-5 man lineups and traditional or advanced stats

Ugh...94.9 ortg 103.0 drtg in 143 minutes

fwiw Ajinca, Davis, Jrue are 107.5/97.2 in 52 minutes

Anderson, Davis, Jrue are 112.1/106.0 in 442 minutes
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 9:48 pm
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:52 pm to
Going through the 5 man lineups, all of our best lineups involve Anderson being on the floor. Usually with Davis, but even with Asik
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:56 pm to
Omer's +/- has been very steady

O rating by month:

DEC 123
Jan 107
Feb 111
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49489 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:04 pm to
Asik does set great screens. And he has been finishing well. No more Stone Hands McGee.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 2/6/16 at 11:02 pm to
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I could have sworn that Joel said something like 15mpg last week


19MPG since January 1, which is the same as Anderson/Davis. Holiday/Anderson/Davis is the best trio for the Pels and is only at 15 MPG since 1/1. Another potent trio is Jrue/Evans/Davis- only 9MPG (tons of injury noise) on the season. Compare to the Warriors Steph/Klay/Dray at 25MPG. I don't know if the Pels can really increase that number by a ton as long as Holiday/Anderson are coming off the bench. If they are not trying to tank, they likely need to try starting those guys and then staggering minutes- pulling one out early a la Dirk. Though, I doubt Gentry can handle that.

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but in a year or two it won't be that bad at all


His $$ may be reasonable under the spike, but that doesn't mean his contract is a good value. Years, age/skills, and roster fit make it a troublesome deal. And the rub is this summer- with AA/Asik on the books for 3 more years, will they be reticent to bring Anderson, a superior player, back and commit roughly half their cap to this 4 man big rotation for the foreseeable future?

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don't trade anything of significant value to do it


Certainly not. Besides, I doubt Holiday (injury/UFA in a year) or Anderson (injury/UFA) would be enough for an Asik dump. If Demps trades the first this year, I'll be pissed. If he does it as part of an Asik dump, I'll go into a coma.

quote:

Omer's +/- has been very steady

O rating by month:

DEC 123
Jan 107
Feb 111


Something different with the way the calculate the data. NBA.com On/Off is very different

108 in Dec
98 in Jan
100 in Feb
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