re: Griff on LeBatard Show

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So did they "outright deny it" or did they state "that it didn't happen in the manner that it was reported?"

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They denied it, "it didn't happen in the manner that it was reported" was referring to the meeting in general. Have they said anything that makes you think that it could possibly be true?

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But for me to 100% not believe it, it'll take more than the 2 dudes who come off looking silly when the report drops denying it. That seems fair enough, no?

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Again, what would move the needle for you? There are two people who know the truth, they both categorically deny that it happened. Yet, you're still willing to believe an anonymous source.

Look at it this way, I can come out and say that an anonymous source told me that they caught you naked in bed with your neighbor. Your wife asks you about it and you laugh and deny it, your neighbor does the same. Your wife says, well if it was true you'd also deny it, right? Is that fair to you or your neighbor?

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Bro, does your side hustle even pay you the same as a high school special teams coordinator

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That was such a weird comment, why did he bring up the pay of a high school special teams coordinator?

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That was such a weird comment, why did he bring up the pay of a high school special teams coordinator?

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It never made sense. I get that it's a side hustle so I'm sure that's cool extra spending money, but if you're going to compare it to a salary type job as a flex, it doesn't exactly hit when you compare to a job I'd assume makes shite money.

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But again, what would move the needle for me to not believe it is entirely irrelevant to this conversation. Trying to figure out how some of you are "100%" certain it is "factual" that it is 100% false, that's what doesn't make sense.

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If you read my other posts, I think it's a telephone game issue. I think he used a shitty source that was hearing things 3rd hand or whatever.

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Now tell me where it's 100% factual that it did NOT happen.

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You're basically taking the stance that nothing can ever be proven, unless there is video/photo evidence of it

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You're basically taking the stance that nothing can ever be proven, unless there is video/photo evidence of it

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You keep saying that, but in this specific instance, isn't that the actual case?

And if you're conceding it can't be proven, which it seems you are, then that speaks to my point of posters stating unequivocally that it is "100%" false and has thus been proven false by certain thing that have occurred after the fact. None of that can be true if you're conceding it really can't actually be proven false.


I'm not talking about those who have come out and said, "I think it's BS." That's completely different than saying it has been proven factually to be 100% BS.

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but I think there's very much reasonable doubt to be had in the story that Clark published.

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That's fair. But again, guys are going way beyond reasonably doubting. That's all I'm stating.

We've had quite a few dudes that the moment Griff said it's not true, said that unequivocally proved it was not true, and they've ran with the assumption that it was made up since.

That's different than having reasonable doubt.


I also don't think it'd be fair to just consider that "semantics" as there's a huge difference in the 2.