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Griff on LeBatard Show
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:28 pm
LINK
Amin El Hassan and Tom Haberstroh do the Basketball Illuminati podcast on their network, Griff was on for the first 15 minutes of the above link, and it's the most comfortable I've heard him in an interview setting , probably because Amin used to work for him in PHX.
Anyway, a couple of Zion notes from it:
- He briefly mentions how the new take foul rule will make Zion even more dominant
- Admits that he and the Pelicans did a poor job of not putting Zion out in front of the media to quell all the rumors that were floating around.
Amin El Hassan and Tom Haberstroh do the Basketball Illuminati podcast on their network, Griff was on for the first 15 minutes of the above link, and it's the most comfortable I've heard him in an interview setting , probably because Amin used to work for him in PHX.
Anyway, a couple of Zion notes from it:
- He briefly mentions how the new take foul rule will make Zion even more dominant
- Admits that he and the Pelicans did a poor job of not putting Zion out in front of the media to quell all the rumors that were floating around.
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:59 am to Broski
quote:griff reads pels talk, confirmed
Admits that he and the Pelicans did a poor job of not putting Zion out in front of the media to quell all the rumors that were floating around.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:42 am to cgrand
quote:
Admits that he and the Pelicans did a poor job of not putting Zion out in front of the media to quell all the rumors that were floating around.
I give griff and the fo insane credit for turning things around when things were falling off a cliff last year, but it was a lot more than simply not putting zion in fromt of the media.
Griff told everyone point blank that zion would be ready for the season. When it was clear that that wasn’t happening he gets on the mic and treats the fans and media like WE were the idiots who thought he meant the beginning of the season.
Griff needs to realize it was more than just silence. It was borderline derision of those who rightfully called him on his bs.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:02 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
Griff told everyone point blank that zion would be ready for the season. When it was clear that that wasn’t happening he gets on the mic and treats the fans and media like WE were the idiots who thought he meant the beginning of the season.
This cannot be forgotten or ever forgiven.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:22 am to SlowFlowPro
Did he specify which season? 
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:47 am to JohnnyKilroy
When your franchise player who has been injury riddled in his first two seasons is injured again and is out for the foreseeable future and possibly the entire season, I understand why the team decided to try to take some of the attention off of him and not say it right off the bat. Williamson was mentally fragile at that point which explains the massive weight gain and they were probably trying to protect him as much as possible from the media who would crucify him. But they did anyways.
If you look at the way the Clippers handled Kawhi’s injury, it’s essentially the same way Zion’s injury was handled but because Williamson is under such a big microscope along with a contract extension coming up, he got blasted all year long.
Yes, it was a mistake for keeping Williamson away from the press the entire year and not address the speculation. But Williamson and his team had to be comfortable with how they handled it as he was probably not in the right state of mind during the majority of the rehab process to address it anyways.
It’s all hindsight but they definitely did it to keep the media and off of him as much as possible but it didn’t work out that way especially after the set back.
Williamson signed the contract extension with concessions and no player option so it all worked out in the end.
If you look at the way the Clippers handled Kawhi’s injury, it’s essentially the same way Zion’s injury was handled but because Williamson is under such a big microscope along with a contract extension coming up, he got blasted all year long.
Yes, it was a mistake for keeping Williamson away from the press the entire year and not address the speculation. But Williamson and his team had to be comfortable with how they handled it as he was probably not in the right state of mind during the majority of the rehab process to address it anyways.
It’s all hindsight but they definitely did it to keep the media and off of him as much as possible but it didn’t work out that way especially after the set back.
Williamson signed the contract extension with concessions and no player option so it all worked out in the end.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:11 am to supe12sta12z
quote:
When your franchise player who has been injury riddled in his first two seasons i
He played 85% of the schedule in Year 2. And the broken finger at the end of the season was most of his time missed.
Zion plays 85% of games going forward and we have no problems.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 1:06 pm to supe12sta12z
quote:
Yes, it was a mistake for keeping Williamson away from the press the entire year and not address the speculation. But Williamson and his team had to be comfortable with how they handled it as he was probably not in the right state of mind during the majority of the rehab process to address it anyways.
I mean, we all know that our front office very badly wanted Zion to get in front of a camera for months, and he wouldn't do it. Forcing Zion to do some interviews would've been a bad idea with how negatively Zion and "his camp" were viewing the franchise at the time.
This kind of talk from Griff now is simply him taking more blame off of Zion, which is smart to continue to strengthen the relationship.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 1:34 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:this
This kind of talk from Griff now is simply him taking more blame off of Zion, which is smart to continue to strengthen the relationship.
griff is a grown arse man with decades of taking NBA bullets. Zion is a very young man with about 1.5 years of actual exposure to a critical audience
Posted on 7/16/22 at 11:43 pm to cgrand
LINK
Here's video from the interview with more stuff.
The plan was originally to have Herb start the season out in Birmingham, but Willie called Griff after one summer league practice and said Herb won't ever be in the G-League. After the third practice, he called Griff and said Herb would start to open the season.
Here's video from the interview with more stuff.
The plan was originally to have Herb start the season out in Birmingham, but Willie called Griff after one summer league practice and said Herb won't ever be in the G-League. After the third practice, he called Griff and said Herb would start to open the season.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:12 am to Broski
That was a good watch thanks for posting
Posted on 7/17/22 at 8:01 pm to England_Pelican
not that it needed it but “the piano man” story dismissed in that exchange as complete and utter bullshite
that chode at the T/P should be mopping floors
that chode at the T/P should be mopping floors
Posted on 7/17/22 at 8:08 pm to cgrand
quote:The truth on that is likely somewhere in the middle of both extremes.
not that it needed it but “the piano man” story dismissed in that exchange as complete and utter bullshite
that chode at the T/P should be mopping floors
Posted on 7/17/22 at 8:26 pm to shel311
Yeah, and let's not forget this is a PR campaign right now. We like it because it helps what we want to see, but I think we all believe Griff acting like there was no problem at all and every negative thing was media fiction is just not true. None of us as fans were happy with the direction of the team when Zion went to Portland either, so it's just hard to believe that "Zion's Camp" was all in on the Pels the entire time.
If Herb and Jose and BI don't save the season, Griff might be fired right now instead of taking a victory lap.
If Herb and Jose and BI don't save the season, Griff might be fired right now instead of taking a victory lap.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 8:31 pm to TigerinATL
quote:agree that there are layers to this, but zion himself said just the other day how exaggerated all that shite was and admitted he was in a bad mental place that kind of spilled over. It’s fine, these are actual people involved and shite happens.
we all believe Griff acting like there was no problem at all and every negative thing was media fiction is just not true.
I don’t think anyone is being dishonest when they say now it was no big deal. Because it apparently wasn’t a big deal...
Posted on 7/17/22 at 8:48 pm to cgrand
I still wonder about the source. There remain three suspects:
1) Lee Anderson. The theory here is that Zion hates SVG, hates the direction of the team, and so Anderson drops an exaggeration of the piano story to put pressure on the front office to change the coach and improve the team.
2) Alvin Gentry. After Griff reportedly tells others around the league that Alvin had the answers to the test and still couldn't pass, Alvin gets his revenge.
3) JJ Redick. After getting traded to the Mavericks, Redick calls Griff a liar and a snake, etc. Like Gentry, Redick definitely has a motive for revenge.
If I had to bet, I would bet on Lee Anderson as the culprit, but I would have no confidence in that bet.
1) Lee Anderson. The theory here is that Zion hates SVG, hates the direction of the team, and so Anderson drops an exaggeration of the piano story to put pressure on the front office to change the coach and improve the team.
2) Alvin Gentry. After Griff reportedly tells others around the league that Alvin had the answers to the test and still couldn't pass, Alvin gets his revenge.
3) JJ Redick. After getting traded to the Mavericks, Redick calls Griff a liar and a snake, etc. Like Gentry, Redick definitely has a motive for revenge.
If I had to bet, I would bet on Lee Anderson as the culprit, but I would have no confidence in that bet.
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 7/17/22 at 8:53 pm to Broski
Great interview, thanks for sharing 
Posted on 7/17/22 at 8:56 pm to GOP_Tiger
Why’d it have to be directly from Lee? Could be some hearsay, telephone game BS that went through multiple people before being reported. That’s my theory about it.
Posted on 7/17/22 at 9:03 pm to Epic Cajun
I am absolutely not a Christian Clark fan by any means, but I really don't think that he would have reported the piano story based on random hearsay. I think that his story had to have come from someone in Orlando like Gentry or Redick, or someone like Anderson who would've gotten the story directly from Zion.
I just don't think that his standards of journalism, and those of his editors at the T-P, have fallen quite that far
I just don't think that his standards of journalism, and those of his editors at the T-P, have fallen quite that far
Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:34 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:Really? Do you read the T-P regularly?
I just don't think that his standards of journalism, and those of his editors at the T-P, have fallen quite that far
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