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re: Greivis Vasquez' Elite Accomplishments

Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:15 pm to
People underrate him because they're used to Chris Paul. He's good. He's good enough to where we don't have to panic and try to find a point guard. We need a 3 really bad.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22174 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:16 pm to
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There is a lot of hyperbole here. Opposing PGs have not been blowing away their averages against him.
Plus, i'd like all these people complaining about Vasquez' defense to run down the list of lock down defenders at the PG position. The list, if it even exists, will be extremely short.

Its amazing to me that the team's most consistent player, and the guy thats held the team together this year takes the most shite from people. We're a trainwreck when he's not on the court.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:17 pm to
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You'll see why vasquez will never be the starting PG on a championship team.


The clairvoyant one has spoken
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:18 pm to
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Dont be upset this summer when he is gone for a player like bledsoe dont come on here and say we missed out. I want to win a championship one day with this team and we will never do that as long as vasquez is on this team.


Bledsoe will never win a division championship as a starting PG. Save it. Write it down. I'll stand by it.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:20 pm to
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I don't think most people would be very upset at that.


I would be pretty upset at that.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:26 pm to
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I would be pretty upset at that.


But you aren't most people

Demps hasn't overpaid for anything yet and I don't expect him to start now. He has proven to be excellent at projecting talent and fit, so if he sees the need to swap Vasquez for someone else I think you'll give it a chance after a mini meltdown.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:30 pm to
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Demps hasn't overpaid for anything yet and I don't expect him to start now. He has proven to be excellent at projecting talent and fit, so if he sees the need to swap Vasquez for someone else I think you'll give it a chance after a mini meltdown.


Thankfully, due to all of those reasons, I don't think Demps would trade Vasquez for Bledsoe.
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22174 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:32 pm to
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I don't think Demps would trade Vasquez for Bledsoe.
But Bledsoe jumps so high
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:33 pm to
I have to try really hard to look past those elite teams led by a Bledsoe/Gordon backcourt to sleep at night, though.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:33 pm to
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But Bledsoe jumps so high


He has long arms, too.
Posted by gideon
Member since Jan 2013
509 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 12:57 pm to
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Thankfully, due to all of those reasons, I don't think Demps would trade Vasquez for Bledsoe.


I don't think the Clippers would even begin to consider trading Vasquez for Bledsoe either.
Posted by ebouillion
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
90 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:48 pm to
i did point out in a later post exactly what you just said and i agree. But even last year we all saw JAck's flaws and now when he isnt the #1 option on a team we see how great and important he can be on a good team. Also you are right on the idea of how fast fans forget people, but there are some vasquez fans out there that will look at the numbers and be upset if we would trade him and get bledsoe
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:52 pm to
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He has proven to be excellent at projecting talent and fit,


Not sure how you can make a claim like this when our record says otherwise.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 1:54 pm to
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Bledsoe will never win a division championship as a starting PG. Save it. Write it down. I'll stand by it.


I can say the same thing about Vazquez. You won't know until you see the other pieces around him.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 2:05 pm to
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Not sure how you can make a claim like this when our record says otherwise.


Jason Smith
Marco Belinelli
Greivis Vasquez
Gustavo Ayon
Robin Lopez
even Lance Thomas and Brian Roberts

All are players that Demps got for very low cost and all have played at least one level above where they were at their last NBA stop, be it DLeague or 3rd string at the end of the bench.

I call that projecting talent and fit, not sure what you call it.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:08 pm to
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I can say the same thing about Vazquez. You won't know until you see the other pieces around him.


Yeah, but I don't have to chop off my left nut to find out with Vasquez....
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:10 pm to
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Jason Smith
Marco Belinelli
Greivis Vasquez
Gustavo Ayon
Robin Lopez
even Lance Thomas and Brian Roberts

All are players that Demps got for very low cost and all have played at least one level above where they were at their last NBA stop, be it DLeague or 3rd string at the end of the bench.

I call that projecting talent and fit, not sure what you call it.


Aminu/Lopez = fit
This post was edited on 2/27/13 at 3:10 pm
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21591 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:10 pm to
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Yeah, but I don't have to chop off my left nut to find out with Vasquez....


I am kinda half baked right now and haven't been reading the thread, but why are you talking about your testicles and Grevis Vasquez?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 3:14 pm to
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I am kinda half baked right now and haven't been reading the thread, but why are you talking about your testicles and Grevis Vasquez?


Because people are trying to trade Greivis Vasquez and our collective left nut for a backup combo guard with a bad ast/to rate.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29855 posts
Posted on 2/27/13 at 4:28 pm to
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All are players that Demps got for very low cost and all have played at least one level above where they were at their last NBA stop, be it DLeague or 3rd string at the end of the bench. I call that projecting talent and fit, not sure what you call it.


I call it being lucky to be on one of the worst rosters in the NBA. You just named a bunch of average to below average players. Them playing at a level above their previous destinations is more indicative of our roster. The proof of this is based on our record.
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