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re: Green expected to be next Pels coach.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 6:18 am to duyp
Posted on 7/17/21 at 6:18 am to duyp
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The ability to tell you the straight truth without offending you."
This right here is what's going to get Zion and BI to take their game to the next level.
I've been wondering lately if the plan for SVG was all along to be a one or two year coach, come in and be a hardass, teach the X's and O's, call players out when they frick up, then bring in someone like Willie that's more toned down and the players will love playing for, and will buy in when he says "I need a little bit more on the defensive end"
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 6:59 am to Soggymoss
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I've been wondering lately if the plan for SVG was all along to be a one or two year coach,
You don’t sign a coach to a 4 year, 5 million a year contract because you want to fire him after one year.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:26 am to Bronc
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I've been wondering lately if the plan for SVG was all along to be a one or two year coach,
You don’t sign a coach to a 4 year, 5 million a year contract because you want to fire him after one year.
Although, I have wondered if it was SVG’s plan.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 8:57 am to Bronc
You do it if you're looking at it as an investment into your superstar player, knowing that's what it would take to get him to buy in.
No coach would take a 1-2 year deal, so the 4 year wouldn't really be a choice.
No coach would take a 1-2 year deal, so the 4 year wouldn't really be a choice.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:50 am to Soggymoss
No, no you don’t.
Stop trying to rehabilitate Griff on this by projecting onto him superhuman powers lol. This wasn’t some 11th dimension chess move built around Griff’s deep understanding of Zion’s psychology, it was a bad hire. Nothing more nothing less.
You also don’t take a month after the season, and reportedly multiple meetings, to fire your coach if it was all part of the master plan.
Let’s just hope the second part of what you said, that Green can get the guys to buy in, and that he can be a good coach in this league, does turn out to be true. Because I don’t think there is another shot at this if Green is a failure.
Stop trying to rehabilitate Griff on this by projecting onto him superhuman powers lol. This wasn’t some 11th dimension chess move built around Griff’s deep understanding of Zion’s psychology, it was a bad hire. Nothing more nothing less.
You also don’t take a month after the season, and reportedly multiple meetings, to fire your coach if it was all part of the master plan.
Let’s just hope the second part of what you said, that Green can get the guys to buy in, and that he can be a good coach in this league, does turn out to be true. Because I don’t think there is another shot at this if Green is a failure.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 1:33 pm to Soggymoss
I absolutely believe that Griff hired SVG thinking that some tough love would be good for Zion and BI.
Unfortunately, the poor play of Redick, Bledsoe, Adams, and Melli meant that the team didn't win. Tough love coaching only works when a team can win. If the team wins, the players suck it up and keep playing hard, because they can see that the coach's style is working, even if they hate it.
When a team is losing, though, it's demoralizing enough without having a coach who doesn't care about you cussing you out all the time.
In other words, I still don't think that the hire of SVG was particularly bad in the abstract. It didn't work because of the unexpectedly poor play of the roster. If Redick and Melli hadn't forgotten how to shoot, and if Bledsoe had been half of what we were expecting, I think that SVG would still have a job.
Unfortunately, the poor play of Redick, Bledsoe, Adams, and Melli meant that the team didn't win. Tough love coaching only works when a team can win. If the team wins, the players suck it up and keep playing hard, because they can see that the coach's style is working, even if they hate it.
When a team is losing, though, it's demoralizing enough without having a coach who doesn't care about you cussing you out all the time.
In other words, I still don't think that the hire of SVG was particularly bad in the abstract. It didn't work because of the unexpectedly poor play of the roster. If Redick and Melli hadn't forgotten how to shoot, and if Bledsoe had been half of what we were expecting, I think that SVG would still have a job.
Posted on 7/17/21 at 2:49 pm to GOP_Tiger
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. If Redick and Melli hadn't forgotten how to shoot, and if Bledsoe had been half of what we were expecting, I think that SVG would still have a job.
Agreed
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