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re: Dyson Daniels Favorite To Win Most Improved

Posted on 4/5/25 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
2314 posts
Posted on 4/5/25 at 3:13 pm to
I’ve been a Zion stan since we won the lottery. It’s sports, I don’t care about your opinion, I like watching Zion Williamson.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 10:55 pm to
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Lol. Plenty on here. I might have been the only one that didn’t like the trade on here. Even Dyson fans thought the trade was good
You're taking victory laps but truthfully, we'll never know if the trade would have worked or not because of the dejounte injuries as well as all the other early season injuries.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
11843 posts
Posted on 4/6/25 at 11:05 pm to
And yet it turns out I’m right once again. But even I predicted it would be a couple years and we’d really regret the trade. It’s only been a couple months, and here we are lol….
This post was edited on 4/6/25 at 11:07 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:30 am to
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And yet it turns out I’m right once again.
We'll never know.

Dyson could have been the one to tear his achilles if we didn't make the trade, then what?


Trade didn't work due to injuries. We'll never know if the trade worked or not according to the plan as we never saw our team together for the season.
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But even I predicted it would be a couple years and we’d really regret the trade. It’s only been a couple months, and here we are lol….
We never got to find out on the court.

Not arguing we won't regret the trade, the moment Dejounte tore his achilles, that was obvious.

We lost and will regret the trade due to injuries, we'll never know how it would have played out with our core on the court.



Nothing I'm saying is controversial, it's basically just facts of the situation
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 10:31 am
Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
927 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:28 am to
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Dyson wasn't beating out Herb on the depth chart


Better scorer and perhaps better defender. How is Willie Green still the coach of this team?
Posted by tigerinjac
Member since Dec 2012
602 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:58 am to
The whole problem resides with the GM. All this team needed was to trade BI and never fire Stan. BI's ego hurt this team because he and Zion couldn't co-exist and Z was/is the better player. Willie will kill this team and put them out of their misery if he's not gone next year.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
11843 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:37 am to
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We never got to find out on the court. Not arguing we won't regret the trade, the moment Dejounte tore his achilles, that was obvious. We lost and will regret the trade due to injuries, we'll never know how it would have played out with our core on the court.


The trade didn’t work out b/c One, DD was much better than almost everyone thought on here except for two other posters and myself.

And Two, Griff should have been using BI or assets from BI to reroute to ATL to get someone like Murray. And if that trade wasn’t there, then not make the trade and move on. That was my premise.

I can bump the thread that I made that almost everyone thought BI had more value than just Murray in the offseason. That we should be getting more than just Murray from the Hawks in a BI trade.

Who else needed a PG or was interested in Murray? The Lakers? Who were they gonna trade to get him? There wasn’t some overflowing market for Murray. But Griff was desperate as usual.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 10:40 am
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
11982 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:54 am to
A lot of blame goes to Green. He was never going to develop Daniels especially on the offensive end. He doesn't have the capacity to nor was he willing to sacrafice wins to do it. He boxed him into a role and yanked him as soon as things go bad. He only wants BI, Z, and CJ to have their freedom on offense. Everyone else needed to be boxed in.

Now look at Synder, he has a history of developing young players and have always put his guys in good position to succeed. He gave Daniels minutes from day 1, let Daniels have an up and down first half off the season while giving him all the reps in the world and he started to find consistency in the second half of the season. He did it by building his confidence throughout the year and letting him figure it out.

You're seeing the same thing with Risacher. Synder is a wizard when it comes to player development. That's a big reason why I want Jenkins so badly.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
11843 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:36 am to
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We'll never know.


It’s over, we already know.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:01 pm to
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The trade didn’t work out b/c One, DD was much better than almost everyone thought on here except for two other posters and myself.

And Two, Griff should have been using BI or assets from BI to reroute to ATL to get someone like Murray. And if that trade wasn’t there, then not make the trade and move on. That was my premise.
So the trade didn't work out for 2 reasons, and neither of the 2 are injuries?


You're not even trying for a rational discussion right now if you can't concede injuries were the single biggest factor in how this trade played out.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:01 pm to
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It’s over, we already know.
We'll never know, never saw the Pels healthy.


Again, if you can't concede that, that just proves all you care about is "thinking" you're correct and not having legit logical conversations in here. it is what it is.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
30060 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:30 pm to
Bunch of idiots in this thread
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
11843 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:27 pm to
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We'll never know, never saw the Pels healthy. Again, if you can't concede that, that just proves all you care about is "thinking" you're correct and not having legit logical conversations in here. it is what it is.


We haven’t seen the Pels healthy in over a decade if ever. So nothing out of the norm in the Griff era.

There’s nothing illogical about my thinking. We gave up the number one perimeter defensive player in the league that just turned 22 and was voted MIP in the entire league. That’s not me saying that, it’s the league voters.

And with the Bucks injury news, and the direction of this franchise, very good chance Hawks walk away with a top ten pick in 2027 along with whatever they land with the lakers pick this year.

Like I said, it’s over and yet another big L for Griff and the franchise. How’s that logic?
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 9:40 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
11843 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:57 pm to
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I would play Dyson with herb right now. There's enough offense with murphy/Williamson/McCollum to be good enough.


Said this a few times last year. Our biggest plus minus of the entire year was with Herb and DD starting and everyone said it wouldn’t be possible. I threw up the stats.

The two best perimeter defensive players in the league sharing the backcourt.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:07 pm to
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How’s that logic?
I already answered this, you replied to my post answering this... odd question
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