re: Dyson Daniels Favorite To Win Most Improved

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Lol. Plenty on here. I might have been the only one that didn’t like the trade on here. Even Dyson fans thought the trade was good

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You're taking victory laps but truthfully, we'll never know if the trade would have worked or not because of the dejounte injuries as well as all the other early season injuries.

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And yet it turns out I’m right once again.

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We'll never know.

Dyson could have been the one to tear his achilles if we didn't make the trade, then what?


Trade didn't work due to injuries. We'll never know if the trade worked or not according to the plan as we never saw our team together for the season.

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But even I predicted it would be a couple years and we’d really regret the trade. It’s only been a couple months, and here we are lol….

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We never got to find out on the court.

Not arguing we won't regret the trade, the moment Dejounte tore his achilles, that was obvious.

We lost and will regret the trade due to injuries, we'll never know how it would have played out with our core on the court.



Nothing I'm saying is controversial, it's basically just facts of the situation

The whole problem resides with the GM. All this team needed was to trade BI and never fire Stan. BI's ego hurt this team because he and Zion couldn't co-exist and Z was/is the better player. Willie will kill this team and put them out of their misery if he's not gone next year.

A lot of blame goes to Green. He was never going to develop Daniels especially on the offensive end. He doesn't have the capacity to nor was he willing to sacrafice wins to do it. He boxed him into a role and yanked him as soon as things go bad. He only wants BI, Z, and CJ to have their freedom on offense. Everyone else needed to be boxed in.

Now look at Synder, he has a history of developing young players and have always put his guys in good position to succeed. He gave Daniels minutes from day 1, let Daniels have an up and down first half off the season while giving him all the reps in the world and he started to find consistency in the second half of the season. He did it by building his confidence throughout the year and letting him figure it out.

You're seeing the same thing with Risacher. Synder is a wizard when it comes to player development. That's a big reason why I want Jenkins so badly.

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The trade didn’t work out b/c One, DD was much better than almost everyone thought on here except for two other posters and myself.

And Two, Griff should have been using BI or assets from BI to reroute to ATL to get someone like Murray. And if that trade wasn’t there, then not make the trade and move on. That was my premise.

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So the trade didn't work out for 2 reasons, and neither of the 2 are injuries?


You're not even trying for a rational discussion right now if you can't concede injuries were the single biggest factor in how this trade played out.

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It’s over, we already know.

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We'll never know, never saw the Pels healthy.


Again, if you can't concede that, that just proves all you care about is "thinking" you're correct and not having legit logical conversations in here. it is what it is.

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We'll never know, never saw the Pels healthy. Again, if you can't concede that, that just proves all you care about is "thinking" you're correct and not having legit logical conversations in here. it is what it is.

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We haven’t seen the Pels healthy in over a decade if ever. So nothing out of the norm in the Griff era.

There’s nothing illogical about my thinking. We gave up the number one perimeter defensive player in the league that just turned 22 and was voted MIP in the entire league. That’s not me saying that, it’s the league voters.

And with the Bucks injury news, and the direction of this franchise, very good chance Hawks walk away with a top ten pick in 2027 along with whatever they land with the lakers pick this year.

Like I said, it’s over and yet another big L for Griff and the franchise. How’s that logic?

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How’s that logic?

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I already answered this, you replied to my post answering this... odd question

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I already answered this, you replied to my post answering this... odd question

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So by your logic, we wouldnt know who won the trade due to injuries, even though during the entire Griff era our stars have not played one season together fully healthy.

It would actually be an outlier if they remained healthy and played most of the year together and the postseason and that’s what you are banking your argument on? Something that has yet to happen in over half a decade?

Meanwhile DD it’s racking up award after award this post season. And day by day, the 2027 pick going to ATL gets better and better.

Yup, there’s just no logical argument to be had on who would have won this trade.

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So by your logic if Dyson stayed here he would've just gotten injured and never done anything this season.

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This makes zero sense. His logic is based on something that has never happened in over half a decade.

DD has been one of the healthier players on the Pelicans when he was purposely getting benched by the head coach. And then he remained healthy all year with the Hawks.

Daniels and Jonas Valanciunas are the only New Orleans players to appear in each of the first 52 regular season games of 2023-24

Zion and BI have rarely ever been healthy, and then guess what, shockingly weren’t healthy again this year. So let’s base our trade results on a factor that had yet to happen at that point.