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Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:57 pm to J_Hingle
I disagree with your assessment. You can argue it was a risky move with a decent chance at being a huge swing and a miss. But a player like Jokic is worth, what like 7 1sts at least? Queen could easily return more than 1 early 1st in value if he keeps developing like this.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:02 pm to Pelican707
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I’m curious to know who do y’all imagine we would draft next year ? Lebron james type player ? Lmaooooo
9/10 it would be another dq level player with potential wake up from y’all’s pipe dreams every year “let’s tank for a top pick” when will you fools realize that doesn’t work
I guess you're just not smart enough to get it. There was no problem trading up for Queen. The problem was giving Atlanta way more than was necessary to move from 23 to 13. Why would you not Top 10 protect the trade when you know Atlanta would have gone for it. Every single writer and pundit said it was a disaster of a trade. And that in no way is an indictment on Queen, who has been even better than I could hope for so far this year.
I'm going to try and dumb it down for you because I think you really need the help. If you bought a house for $500,000 that was listed at $300,000 and never even attempted to come in at $300,000.00 initially, its just stupid. Even if in years the house grows in value past $500,000, you needlessly gave away $200,000 for no reason. The articles after the trade indicated that Dumars went to Atlanta without even asking for Top 10 or even Top 5 protection. Its beyond stupid no matter how good Queen turns out to be.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:40 pm to LSUgrad88
Why are you acting like you know how the negotiations transpired? You’re just guessing. At some point, we just have to move on from the trade. What’s done is done. It makes no damn difference to harp on what could have been over and over. The good news is Queen is a stud, if Queen didn’t look the part then we’d really be in some deep shite but that’s not the case.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:49 pm to LSUgrad88
Also, is anyone really willing to claim that Flagg looks substantially better than Queen at this stage of their careers? Queen could walk away from this class as the best player in it. Who’s to say the Hawks didn’t have Queen rated highly as well? From the Hawks perspective, I’m sure they didn’t want to drop out of pick 13 just for fun, had to be worth it for them. Now we have a franchise centerpiece and they have to hope they draft a good player next season (easier said than done).
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:00 am to spaghettioeauxs
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Who’s to say the Hawks didn’t have Queen rated highly as well?
I read somewhere that the guy they drafted after moving down was higher on their draft board than Queen.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:01 am to Townedrunkard
The guy that played 8 minutes in a game they won by 33? Hmm.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:25 am to tzimme4
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He's right there with Cooper Flagg as far as odds to win the award. Have you watched any basketball this season other than the Pelicans?
Have you or are you just looking at the odds?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:18 am to LSUgrad88
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I guess you're just not smart enough to get it. There was no problem trading up for Queen. The problem was giving Atlanta way more than was necessary to move from 23 to 13. Why would you not Top 10 protect the trade when you know Atlanta would have gone for it.
This is what they just refuse to get.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:51 am to dj30
2025-26 NBA Rookie of the Year:
Flagg -125
Edgecombe +280
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Queen +3300
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Queen +3300
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:55 am to tzimme4
Do you know how odds work in regards to these props?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:59 am to tzimme4
Jaxon Dart OROY odds September 11th:
+2000
Jaxon Dart OROY odds today: +190
+2000
Jaxon Dart OROY odds today: +190
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:34 am to dj30
Just wondering,
does anyone have actual proof that Atl would have done the trade with protections on the pick?
does anyone have actual proof that Atl would have done the trade with protections on the pick?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:45 am to dj30
Yeah you idiot. Cooper Flagg based on the odds has a 55% chance of winning the award if it was awarded today.
Dart isn't even the favorite to win and those odds are awful considering he's not even playing this week.
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Jaxon Dart OROY odds today: +190
Dart isn't even the favorite to win and those odds are awful considering he's not even playing this week.
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 7:47 am
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:47 am to dj30
Just take an L, you're an idiot and trying to argue with someone who bets future props in every sport.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:50 am to tzimme4
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Just take an L, you're an idiot and trying to argue with someone who bets future props in every sport.
Aren’t you subscribed to my discord? I promise gou, I’m not the one to have this argument with because you haven’t made one.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:51 am to tzimme4
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Dart isn't even the favorite to win and those odds are awful considering he's not even playing this week.
I’m just posting odds like you clown.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:52 am to tzimme4
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Yeah you idiot. Cooper Flagg based on the odds has a 55% chance of winning the award if it was awarded today.
I didn’t say anything about Cooper Flagg. I didn’t say anything about Queen.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:55 am to Split2874
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Just wondering, does anyone have actual proof that Atl would have done the trade with protections on the pick?
No clue, hard to know what the discussions were. It was said that the Pelicans tried to trade up with teams that picked prior to the Hawks and those teams declined.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:55 am to spaghettioeauxs
To add to this. Teams from 8-12 also declined our trade offer.
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