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re: Devils advocate on hiring Dumars

Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11166 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:15 pm to
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frick Gayle Benson and her support for child sexual abuse


I don't know where the admins are, but people shouldn't post stuff like this so casually. That is a heinous claim and libelous, especially if left posted. You are putting the site at risk. You can't just call someone, especially a billionaire, a vile thing like that. She could have someone tell her and lawyers could jump on this with the quickness. You really think Chicken is going to risk his platform for this board. F'n use some common sense and act like an adult..
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15673 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:23 pm to
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Maybe he can get through to Zion



IMO the ship has sailed on him.

You know what you have in him and it will not change.

He may get a little boost in dedication if he plays for the Lakers, but he is what he is.

All potential and never going to realize the fullness of that potential.
Posted by AOC4PREZ2028
Member since Apr 2025
305 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:31 pm to
Oh, calm down Bmark.

Gayle supports the Catholic Church. At the very least, she used her employees to assist the Catholic Chruch in the messaging around the sex abuse scandal. You know, the scandal inolving priests raping little boys. None of this is factually inaccurate. There have been admissions by the priests. She supports child sex abusers. That is uncontroverted.

As for this being "dangerous" to the site, that is just ridiculous. First, no one is perusing this site for people saying mean things about Gayle. Second, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act protects Internet Service Providers and interactive computer service providers from being treated as publishers of content provided by others, including defamatory statements.

In sum, you are wrong on multiple levels.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5477 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:35 pm to
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If he is in admin rather than GM I'm good.


Pipe dream. He isn’t taking this job without player personnel and coaching hires. They already told you Zion and Willie are Dumars’ call.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11166 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:45 pm to
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Oh, calm down Bmark


You joined yesterday, which means you either are new to the site, or more likely are a former member that was banned for some reason (probably multiple times).. Either way I'm not taking advice from you.

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Gayle supports the Catholic Church

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She supports child sex abusers


This is a massive leap in logic. So much so that i am not going to dignify it with a response. I'll just let your words show your intentions.

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First, no one is perusing this site for people saying mean things about Gayle


This site is massively popular with huge traffic. A simple Google search directs people here all the time. You just stated that she has a media department. You don't think people from the team read our board?

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In sum, you are wrong on multiple levels.


That was a great reference that you knew very quickly. Which shows that you believe you can post stuff like this all the time and fall back on that for justification. Probably why you got kicked off and made up this new alter. But I'm not wrong and I don't think you should stick around. It was a good one day run. Maybe your new identity will have more tact. Good bye..
Posted by AOC4PREZ2028
Member since Apr 2025
305 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:59 pm to
Dude. I know that message boards are not liable for the potentially libelous words of their users. You don't gotta be a lawyer to know that.

You were just plain wrong that someone positing libelous words about Gayle can get the board sued. Instead of "my bad", you attack me and try to be some board gatekeeper.

If you must know, I've been a longtime lurker, who decided to register because I wanted to respond to the guy who started the "Depressed" thread. He thanked me for the post. I was happy to help him off the ledge.

Then I came across your ignorant post and felt like I had to check you. Sorry you were just plain wrong about the law. And yes, I am vocal about being anti child rape. Sue me, Jack.

PS - You are totally disingenuous with your selective quoting of me. You claim I have a massive leap in logic about Gayle supporting child rapists, but quoted the first sentence and the last sentence without quoting how I got there logically. My logic is sound. When you offer your help to cover up child rape, you are supporting child rapists. Plenty of people support the Catholic Church and do not support child rape. Gayle is special.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 2:09 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11166 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:21 pm to
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Dude. I know that message boards are not liable for the potentially libelous words of their users. You don't gotta be a lawyer to know that.


So you support him posting libelous statements?

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You were just plain wrong that someone positing libelous words about Gayle can get the board sued. Instead of "my bad", you attack me and try to be some board gatekeeper.



We are all gatekeepers of the site and board. We should all care and be vigilant.

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If you must know, I've been a longtime lurker, who decided to register because I wanted to respond to the guy who started the "Depressed" thread. He thanked me for the post. I was happy to help him off the ledge


Don't care.

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Then I came across your ignorant post and felt like I had to check you. Sorry you were just plain wrong about the law. And yes, I am vocal about being anti child rape. Sue me, Jack.


You didn't check anything. You co-signed his hateful comments and tried to justify it. Just like you do in the next paragraph.

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PS - You are totally disingenuous with your selective quoting of me. You claim I have a massive leap in logic about Gayle supporting child rapists, but quoted the first sentence and the last sentence without quoting how I got there logically. My logic is sound. When you offer your help to cover up child rape, you are supporting child rapists. Plenty of people support the Catholic Church and do not support child rape. Gayle is special


Straight up get this shite off the board. Nobody said anything about any of this until she made a "bad hire". Now there are multiple threads. GTFO. If she was guilty of any of the things you are saying, then why is it all coming up now? Why didn't you make a bigger stand before?

I read your "1st" post. You are a 9 year season ticket holder to a team that is owned by someone that does these things? What does that say about you? What is says to me is that you are full of shite and making stuff up or exaggerating to make a point. You don't really believe it, so you can't effectively sell it. Try again..
Posted by AOC4PREZ2028
Member since Apr 2025
305 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:40 pm to
I'm welcome to post what I want.
You are welcome post what you want.
When you are factually wrong (like you were about how you thought the owners of the board might be liable for libel) I will tell you so.
When I tell you that you're factually wrong, you are welcome to attack me personally and deflect the fact that you were factually wrong.

Peace out brah.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:46 pm to
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I don't know where the admins are, but people shouldn't post stuff like this so casually. That is a heinous claim and libelous, especially if left posted. You are putting the site at risk. You can't just call someone, especially a billionaire, a vile thing like that. She could have someone tell her and lawyers could jump on this with the quickness. You really think Chicken is going to risk his platform for this board. F'n use some common sense and act like an adult


She absolutely supported the Catholic Church in covering up their organized crimes involving child sexual abuse. Facts are not libel.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:49 pm to
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brmark70816


you're funny on so many levels
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11166 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 3:03 pm to
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She absolutely supported the Catholic Church in covering up their organized crimes involving child sexual abuse. Facts are not libel.


That's not what you said and you really don't care that much. Why are picking now to bring this up? If this was a reason or a justification, why did you support the team up till now? If she was guilty of what you said, she should be in jail. If she's not, how can you support anything associated with her?

Up till recently, I have been the biggest Benson basher on the site and advocating for a sale. Because she's a shite owner that doesn't like basketball and I want an engaged owner. I always got roasted, cause they want to keep the team local. But now, all of a sudden, she's the head of a vast criminal conspiracy and has to go. What funny timing..
Posted by AOC4PREZ2028
Member since Apr 2025
305 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 3:28 pm to
Are you that dense?

The "timing" is simple: the reports are that Gayle wants Zion gone because of his off-court sexual activities. Gayle supports pedophile priests. That is why it is relevant NOW.

This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 3:31 pm
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11166 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 3:35 pm to
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The "timing" is simple: the reports are that Gayle wants Zion gone because of his off-court sexual activities. Gayle supports pedophile priests. That is why it is relevant NOW.


So you only care about any of this now cause she wants to trade Zion?

You can't make this stuff up..
Posted by AOC4PREZ2028
Member since Apr 2025
305 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 3:37 pm to
You're not very good at this.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11166 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 3:43 pm to
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You're not very good at this.


I'm doing great and both of you just keep looking sillier by the post. You just keep digging deeper and deeper. It's kind of funny, if it wasn't so sad. But I'm sure you come back with a new twist. Maybe she's a Nazi or or a white power leader or something like that next, I'm sure there is tons of stuff you can make up..
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:57 pm to
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Joe Dumars says he wants a team full of tough, hard-working, smart basketball players
I’ll take things every GM/coach ever has said for $1000 Trebeck
Posted by AOC4PREZ2028
Member since Apr 2025
305 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 10:41 am to
Fair enough. However, Griff wanted "good humans" and all that crap. Perhaps Dumars will prioritize toughness and over all else. Which is exactly what this team needs.
Posted by beachtiger777
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
666 posts
Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:16 pm to
With everyone hating on the hire makes me think this might work....
Posted by Borntoboogy
Member since Jan 2023
1045 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 10:46 am to
It is what it is. Might as well give him a chance.
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
7678 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:15 pm to
League told Gayle, "You take Dumars off our hands, and you get the #1 overall pick".
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