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re: CP3 won't sign extension with Boston
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:39 am to BeeFense5
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:39 am to BeeFense5
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So basically the Knicks talk is all for nothing unless Paul made it to free agency and signed for a ridiculously cheap contract, correct?
Yes. Think of this like the lockout. It's all business and all about gaining leverage and trying to make the other guy blink.
This is from one of the 247 guys with a few league sources so take it with a grain of salt, but if this is accurate it's even less likely that Paul goes to the Knicks.
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I was told that new CBA might have holds at the vet minimum if a team has more than 4 open roster spots. Another way to stop a Heatles type of mega star pairing. League doesn't want team to clear rosters just to fill them with mega stars and minimum guys. If that rule goes into place- Knicks can't offer more than 10 million in first year of the deal.
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Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:41 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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What if Melo and Amare agree to pay cuts in order to get Paul and all three agree to equal value contracts?
I believe NBA contracts aren't renegotiable unless the pay is increased and the team has cap room.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:42 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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What if Melo and Amare agree to pay cuts in order to get Paul and all three agree to equal value contracts?
I don't think that's possible in the NBA. Is in the NFL, but I don't think that is possible under any CBA the NBA has had.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:44 am to BeeFense5
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I believe NBA contracts aren't renegotiable unless the pay is increased and the team has cap room.
That's my understanding as well.
It just not probably under the new CBA unless CP takes a massive paycut.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:44 am to Fun Bunch
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I don't think that's possible in the NBA. Is in the NFL, but I don't think that is possible under any CBA the NBA has had
Was this rule in place with the old CBA? I might be wrong, but I thought Wade took a pay cut to accomadate LBJ and Bosh.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:46 am to BeeFense5
I think DC, Paul George would be better
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:46 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
I think the pay cut was as result of a new deal meaning that he could have made more but signed for less in order to accommodate a big 3 team.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:49 am to Jester
So the lockout meant nothing, Paul can choose and decide wherever he wants to go and the Hornets will be hard pressed to get any value for him.
With the ownership issues he has every right to get out of New Orleans but why should the player get all the leverage in this deal. It's what I like about MLB, at least the small market teams can trade their best players and get a lot of prospects in return.
With the ownership issues he has every right to get out of New Orleans but why should the player get all the leverage in this deal. It's what I like about MLB, at least the small market teams can trade their best players and get a lot of prospects in return.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:49 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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Was this rule in place with the old CBA?
Yes. Depending on the length of the deal you have to wait at least 3 years to renegotiate.
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I thought Wade took a pay cut to accomadate LBJ and Bosh.
Wade was a FA, remember there was a time when people thought he'd end up in Chicago.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:54 am to nicholastiger
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So the lockout meant nothing, Paul can choose and decide wherever he wants to go and the Hornets will be hard pressed to get any value for him.
With the ownership issues he has every right to get out of New Orleans but why should the player get all the leverage in this deal. It's what I like about MLB, at least the small market teams can trade their best players and get a lot of prospects in return.
It did help in some ways. CP really can't force his way to the Knicks because him signing with them in the offseason is a completely empty threat. Not happening.
There are things, but a player can always decide if he's going to re-sign with a team. If he tells you he won't, then there's nothing you can do about that.
Players will always have some modicum of control.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 11:55 am to Hammond Tiger Fan
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Was this rule in place with the old CBA? I might be wrong, but I thought Wade took a pay cut to accomadate LBJ and Bosh.
As others have said, Wade was a FA. Definitely not the case here.
CP will not be a Knick.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:01 pm to TigerinATL
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Early round of team-to-agents calls producing lots of posturing, little clarity. "Everyone's working on their lies first," one GM says. about 15 minutes ago
Not commenting on CP3 in particular, but it helps to remember that we are looking at the business end of the NBA right now and often time the sources for these stories are people with agendas.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 12:59 pm to TigerinATL
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Not commenting on CP3 in particular, but it helps to remember that we are looking at the business end of the NBA right now and often time the sources for these stories are people with agendas.
Yeah, I'm starting to get more and more hopeful we can retain CP. It does seem more like posturing than a real danger in a way.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:07 pm to Jester
why anyone would want to play for the Knicks over the Celtics is beyond me, much better ownership in Boston. Even with Paul, the Knicks wouldn't win shite, because they don't defend well.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:02 pm to RonBurgundy
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What if Melo and Amare agree to pay cuts in order to get Paul and all three agree to equal value contracts?
this isn't peyton and drew that we are talking about...have you ever heard of NBA players taking pay cuts
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What if Melo and Amare agree to pay cuts in order to get Paul and all three agree to equal value contracts?
this isn't peyton and drew that we are talking about...have you ever heard of NBA players taking pay cuts
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:29 pm to RonBurgundy
Why would Paul lock up the next 4-5 years with the Celtics? Pierce/Allen/KG are all on their last legs.
Lakers/Clippers/Thunder all better situations for winning multiple years down the line than Boston.
Lakers/Clippers/Thunder all better situations for winning multiple years down the line than Boston.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 10:43 pm to wope
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CP3 won't sign extension with Boston
Of course not...he has to do this in such a way that the team benefits ZERO.
He is such a fig
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:49 am to wope
The Celtics should make this trade even knowing this.
The Big 3 is old. Their window is closed, unless they get a guy like Paul. And if he does go there and they win, Paul will re-sign. You can take that to the bank.
The Big 3 is old. Their window is closed, unless they get a guy like Paul. And if he does go there and they win, Paul will re-sign. You can take that to the bank.
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