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re: Construct a realistic playoff team under the following criteria.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 5:42 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 10/3/20 at 5:42 pm to TeddyPadillac
Bates diop and cancar are the only ones not playing. Sure they lose Plumlee(replaceable) and millsap is old he can hardly jump off the ground. MPJ and grant get more minutes to fill millsap void. You’ve got Barton coming back from injury you could trade for a bench big. Plus the draft picks they own.. so if we need three players let’s use one rookie one via trade and one via MLE/BI annual either or. There’s a 8 player roster who can all contribute with a rookie to develop and a veteran for his presence. Fill the rest with minimums... you forget how much winning means to older players. Look at some of the contracts players take to sign with the top 2 or 3 teams. They will take much less and everyone is beginning to realize Denver isn’t to far away... don’t be surprised if some rondo/d Howard people try and climb on the nug train
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Posted on 10/3/20 at 5:43 pm to TeddyPadillac
And as I stated earlier you only need 7-9 players in playoff rotation not sure why you think they need 10 significant players. Name me a team playing ten deep every playoff game that won??
Posted on 10/3/20 at 5:48 pm to TheWhitemamba16
Or if you can’t do that without googling name me the #7-10 guys off the bench on two nba teams? Don’t use the lakers heat or pelicans
Posted on 10/3/20 at 6:39 pm to TheWhitemamba16
Why do the Nuggets want Holiday? Harris is basically the same player, just younger, cheaper and locked up for an extra year. So why exchange them? Holiday would be their 3rd or 4th option. He isn't going to put up monster numbers. But he is going to cost a lot more. Is he really that much better? Two years ago, people never thought we could do a Harris for Holiday swap, now they have to throw in additional assets?
Posted on 10/3/20 at 6:40 pm to TigerinATL
If you are trading the warriors pick I’m sure they’ll keep green and use Wiggins to match salary. No way they give up the pick, rotation looney and green. They wanna make another run at it with the core 3. They got Wiggins to trade him in scenarios exactly like this.
Also definitely cut the Kings out and do a separate trade to get rid of al horford. The King have been rumored to be open to swapping buddy for al and some assets from the Sixers. I guess they think it’s bad contract for bad contract but they just are blind.
Would love buddy on pelicans and MPJ . Take off Richardson or something and swap MPJ to pelicans. The 76ers are stupid. I’m just waiting for them to get fleeced.
Also definitely cut the Kings out and do a separate trade to get rid of al horford. The King have been rumored to be open to swapping buddy for al and some assets from the Sixers. I guess they think it’s bad contract for bad contract but they just are blind.
Would love buddy on pelicans and MPJ . Take off Richardson or something and swap MPJ to pelicans. The 76ers are stupid. I’m just waiting for them to get fleeced.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 6:42 pm to brmark70816
Preach my man. He doesn’t fit the age group of the nuggets. They will not overpay for him. They aren’t that desperate yet.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 6:49 pm to TheWhitemamba16
If the Pels say no to a Harris/MPJ trade, then it aint happening.
And Grant did not play himself into 20 mil/per deal.
I like him but lets not overvalue his likely contribution and the dearth of players that are "tweeners" 3/4 players. He's a solid spot starter and will have a number of good nights, but on a championship team he would be best serve as a 6th or 7th man. Thats worth 12-17 tops.
But, for $20 mil plus and not a given +20pts a night scorer, you better be able to primarily play exceptional Defense to truly affect Bron, Giannis and KD for what we need for this team. He is just a piece to that puzzle, not the end all.
And Grant did not play himself into 20 mil/per deal.
I like him but lets not overvalue his likely contribution and the dearth of players that are "tweeners" 3/4 players. He's a solid spot starter and will have a number of good nights, but on a championship team he would be best serve as a 6th or 7th man. Thats worth 12-17 tops.
But, for $20 mil plus and not a given +20pts a night scorer, you better be able to primarily play exceptional Defense to truly affect Bron, Giannis and KD for what we need for this team. He is just a piece to that puzzle, not the end all.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 6:55 pm to irvchilichill1
Harris is not Holiday. Period. He's a 6th man thats starting. Plus, his shot done went to s#!& this year for a while and he is not a perrenial,ALL-NBA defender. Gotta get premium return for trading scoring defenders. When u dont make ALL NBA defensive team and basically the whole LEAGUE says how, then you know dude is respected for that important aspect of his game.
You can find scoring anywhere now, but defending is at a premium in this day and age.
You can find scoring anywhere now, but defending is at a premium in this day and age.
This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 10/3/20 at 7:11 pm to irvchilichill1
You’re thinking about it from the wrong perspective. No one is saying the pelicans would turn that down. If they did every fan should find a new team.. it’s that the nuggets won’t even propose or discuss that..
Grant is 26.. and showed potential in the crunch playoff run. He stepped up huge. Gallinari and H Barnes made 20 million last year. You are right he’s just a piece to the puzzle, but he’s young, plays hard, and guarded one the opposing teams two best players every night in the playoffs.. someone is going to overpay him. 20 mil is double his rookie contract. That’s not an unreasonable raise for a player of his potential. He’s a very safe investment
Grant is 26.. and showed potential in the crunch playoff run. He stepped up huge. Gallinari and H Barnes made 20 million last year. You are right he’s just a piece to the puzzle, but he’s young, plays hard, and guarded one the opposing teams two best players every night in the playoffs.. someone is going to overpay him. 20 mil is double his rookie contract. That’s not an unreasonable raise for a player of his potential. He’s a very safe investment
Posted on 10/3/20 at 7:13 pm to irvchilichill1
Garry Harris took on the best player every night in the playoffs unless he was 6 8 or bigger. He shut down Paul George man
Posted on 10/3/20 at 7:29 pm to TheWhitemamba16
Harris has been battling injuries and his role has changed dramatically. He has been a starter the past 4 seasons. He is a great defender and his teammates love him. No doubt he has struggled. But think through swapping him for Holiday. What do you gain? Who is the better fit next to Murray?
Holiday is a better defender slightly. Harris has been a better shooter. Harris makes over 5M less and is several years younger. If you make Holiday the 4th option and he has to primarily play off the ball, how much more do you expect? Is that slight improvement justify giving away a monster talent (Porter)?
Holiday is a better defender slightly. Harris has been a better shooter. Harris makes over 5M less and is several years younger. If you make Holiday the 4th option and he has to primarily play off the ball, how much more do you expect? Is that slight improvement justify giving away a monster talent (Porter)?
Posted on 10/3/20 at 7:51 pm to brmark70816
No ya proposed a straight up trade. That’s not what I’m saying won’t happen. You guys have thrown in as much as MPJ grant picks and Harris. Straight up I’d take the jrue trade for Harris but I’m not adding anything else. The coach says he is the 3rd most important player to his team and system. Even if you don’t value him high the seller does.. no a slight improvement at one position and it’s not that big of an improvement.. and shortening your championship window is not worth Giving up the potential of porter and the bird rights plus trust in Harris.
The nugs just went to the west finals. They will be better next year with or without jrue. They won’t be making huge risky moves this year. That will take a year or two for them to get desperate.
The nugs just went to the west finals. They will be better next year with or without jrue. They won’t be making huge risky moves this year. That will take a year or two for them to get desperate.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 8:00 pm to TheWhitemamba16
I totally agree. It doesn't make sense for the Nuggets..
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:10 pm to irvchilichill1
Agree, Grant is not a $20 million player at all.
Posted on 10/3/20 at 11:48 pm to NOSHAU
Yet Paul millsap was worth 30?
Posted on 10/4/20 at 12:14 am to TheWhitemamba16
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Grant is 26.. and showed potential in the crunch playoff run. He stepped up huge.
Y’all judging shite on bubble & playoff games from this season are wild. Such sample size & circumstance are nearly meaningless
Posted on 10/4/20 at 12:16 am to Lester Earl
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Y’all judging shite on bubble & playoff games from this season are wild. Such sample size & circumstance are nearly meaningless
Not wrong. Grants was a solid player for them this year though. Bubble stats are definitely inflated and shouldn’t be assumed as a norm for said players
This post was edited on 10/4/20 at 12:19 am
Posted on 10/4/20 at 1:18 am to Lester Earl
Dude go look up how much dellavedovas playoff run with Lebron made him. It’s not me thinking this it’s the nba execs
Posted on 10/4/20 at 10:39 am to TheWhitemamba16
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Dude go look up how much dellavedovas playoff run with Lebron made him
That’s my point
It’s hard not to be a box score watcher but it will get you in trouble in small sample sizes.
Posted on 10/4/20 at 11:07 am to TheWhitemamba16
quote:Relevance? What has Grant done that has ever approached Millsap? Different cap situation as well.
Yet Paul millsap was worth 30?
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