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re: Chris Paul's agent informs Hornets that star won't sign deal, wants trade to NY

Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:29 pm to
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And let's not forget he ran Marcus out of town cause he coudlnt handle not being most popular



Don't even go there.


I'd focus more on the summit meeting between CP3, Monty, and Demps in which CP3 assured them he'd stick around if Demps turned over the roster.

He wanted them to make a commitment to him by bringing in new players and shipping out DC. Demps miracled his arse off to turn shite like Juju into usable parts like Marco and getting Ariza by dumping DC.

Him forcing a major roster turnover as a condition to staying and then pulling this shite REALLY gets me, as we could have shipped him out last year and gone forward with DC as our point if he was just going to walk anyway.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:29 pm to
BTW I'm totally joking on Thornton part
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:32 pm to
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I'd focus more on the summit meeting between CP3, Monty, and Demps in which CP3 assured them he'd stick around if Demps turned over the roster.

He wanted them to make a commitment to him by bringing in new players and shipping out DC. Demps miracled his arse off to turn shite like Juju into usable parts like Marco and getting Ariza by dumping DC.

Him forcing a major roster turnover as a condition to staying and then pulling this shite REALLY gets me, as we could have shipped him out last year and gone forward with DC as our point if he was just going to walk anyway.



This is exactly what I am upset about. The Hornets front office showed commitment and held up their end of the agreement by doing more with less last offseason. Now the team will be left with out its superstar and without a promising young replacement point guard.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:32 pm to
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He wanted them to make a commitment to him by bringing in new players and shipping out DC. Demps miracled his arse off to turn shite like Juju into usable parts like Marco and getting Ariza by dumping DC.

Him forcing a major roster turnover as a condition to staying and then pulling this shite REALLY gets me, as we could have shipped him out last year and gone forward with DC as our point if he was just going to walk anyway.

I completely forgot about that part, but was it before or after Melo got sent to NY? If it was before then I guess I can somewhat understand it, but it's still BS that we traded away our youth for him and he'll wind up leaving anyway.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:33 pm to


I'm not in all these threads as much, so I don't follow the inside jokes as well.

I also don't get to watch nearly as many games as you guys, because they are fricking NEVER on TV here and I don't love the NBA enough to have a package .


I did watch when they were on, and I definitely watched all of the playoff games.

I love CP3, and I hope the Hornets can find some way to keep him around.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:33 pm to
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but was it before or after Melo got sent to NY?


It was before
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:35 pm to
There are always ways to watch live streams online if you're interested in following the team closely.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73904 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:35 pm to
Bellinelli sucks. Ariza is an average NBA player and filled a need somewhat.

The front office did nothing to make this team a contender.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:37 pm to
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Bellinelli sucks. Ariza is an average NBA player and filled a need somewhat.

The front office did nothing to make this team a contender.

It's hard to go from sub-.500 to a contender in 1 offseason. The fact that we were in the top 4 seeds in the West for most of the season and still got the 7th seed when West went out was pretty promising with the makeshift roster we had.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:37 pm to
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I'd focus more on the summit meeting between CP3, Monty, and Demps in which CP3 assured them he'd stick around if Demps turned over the roster


Well it wasn't just turnover, right? HE wanted to get pieces to a championship puzzle?


I do agree, getting anything for Juju is a minor miracle.

I also agree that CP3 should be patient with something of that regard, because a team in our financial shape can't build a title contender in one year.

But, every player ever wants to win a titles and this isn't the 80s/90s where free agency wasn't as big of a deal. Players are constantly moving around and changing teams, so the whole "loyalty" thing doesn't really apply IMO.

People point to a guy like Durant and say, "See, he's loyal." But Durant also has a great, young core around him. If that group fails to get it done the next 3 or 4 years, let's see where Kevin stands, whether or not he's "OKC 4 LYFE" or not.

Kobe demanded out of LA for a while until they grabbed Gasol and others... and he's had much better talent around him for his entire career than CP3 has had here.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103110 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:37 pm to
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Bellinelli sucks. Ariza is an average NBA player and filled a need somewhat.

The front office did nothing to make this team a contender.


Marco may not be great, but look what they gave up for him... Julian Wright. Christ, getting a few extra practice balls for him would have been an accomplishment.

As far as Ariza goes, Demps specifically pitched CP3 on bringing him in and CP3 pretty much said "You can do that? bullshite. He's not going anywhere." Demps then pulled off the four-team trade for him.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73904 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:39 pm to
I understand the FO did what they could with what they had. Doesn't change the fact that this team isn't a contender.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42173 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:39 pm to
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Bellinelli sucks. Ariza is an average NBA player and filled a need somewhat.

The front office did nothing to make this team a contender.



I was pretty impressed with the moves. Considering the assets they had, I would say those moves turned out pretty positive. At least a step in the right direction towards a highly competitive team.

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:39 pm to
The TP says it's all lies.

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New Orleans Hornets guard Chris Paul has not demanded a trade to the New York Knicks, according to two league sources.

LINK

FWIW I'd say Woj has a much better track record than the TP.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:39 pm to
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There are always ways to watch live streams online if you're interested in following the team closely.



Are they in the game threads? I'll try to do check it out. I may have done that once or twice this year, I can't remember.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42173 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:40 pm to
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Doesn't change the fact that this team isn't a contender.



They arent but for what they did over one full offseason, it was going the right direction.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42173 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:41 pm to
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The TP says it's all lies.



Too much smoke to not be a fire imo
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18886 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:41 pm to
They get posted in game threads when the game isn't on TV but you can always ask for a link and people will provide one, and those sites usually have games all season.
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:41 pm to
Like I said guys let's be patient cp seems loyal to the.city and is our best player
Posted by T1gerWonder
Member since May 2011
4460 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 3:41 pm to
I think we have to accept the fact that CP3 isnt going to be here for that much longer that being said we should worry about who he is traded to (I dont see why he would reject throwing ally-opps to Blake Griffin all day)

The best thing to do is get a solid young player and probably 2 first round picks

Hopefully that good young player is someone like Eric Gordon and since the knicks have no picks I cant see him being traded to them
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