re: Build your own Trade thread

he sprained his ankle. He's not out for the season. He's probably goign to be back within the next 2 weeks unless there's been some damage done to his ankle that requires surgery that they haven't released yet.

The Nets aren't trading away picks this year for anyone. They are interested in getting more of them by moving Cam Johnson.

And Nic Claxton sucks. We have a starting 5. We need a backup 5, and that backup either needs to be able to shoot 3s or he needs to be strong enough to defend Jokic types to take some pressure off Missi. Not paying 20+ million a year for a guy who can't defend bigs and can't shoot to save his life.

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The Nets aren't trading away picks this year for anyone

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The Nets will not trade any of their (4) 1sts and (2) 2nds in the draft this upcoming season?

They will draft 6 players and possibly go for 8/9 if they trade Cam Johnson/ Claxton?

That's extremely unlikely and a terrible bet.


More importantly they won't trade (1) 1st and (1) 2nd for (4) future 2nds and (1) future 1st while still having 4 picks in the upcoming draft??? I can understand not wanting Claxton but the Nets gatekeeping 6 picks in a draft is not the dealbreaker here.

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The Nets will not trade any of their (4) 1sts and (2) 2nds in the draft this upcoming season?

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No they aren't going to trade any of those picks in the next 3 weeks. They do not want to win games. They were so ticked off that the beat the Blazers that they sat everyone the next night and lost by 60.

The Bucks/Phx/NYK 1sts they have can get traded on draft night, likely trading 2 of them to move up in the 1st.
and they only have their own 2nd, not 2, and they can easily trade that very early 2nd round pick on draft night as well. They'll probably make 3 picks in the 1st round, using 4 of their picks to improve 2 of them, while the other 1 is a top 4 pick.



From ESPN today:

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As we canvassed the league this week for the most likely players to be moved before the deadline, one name was unanimous: Brooklyn Nets forward Cameron Johnson, who is in the middle of a career season for the Nets -- 19.6 points per game on 49.9% shooting overall and 42% from 3-point range.

The reasoning is obvious: The Nets, who were the early movers in the trade market by trading both Dennis Schroder (to the Golden State Warriors) and Dorian Finney-Smith (to the Los Angeles Lakers) over the past few weeks, continue to hunt for as many pingpong balls as possible in the upcoming NBA draft lottery. Johnson is arguably the one legitimate difference-making player who could change teams over the next several weeks, with his teammate Nic Claxton also mentioned as a possible trade candidate.

"The Nets asking price is high," one league executive said, referring to both Johnson and Claxton, "and they [have made] it known they don't feel like they have to trade them now. But if they're helping them win games, they'll trade them or put them on the bench."

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and you're acting like they are going to give up assets for BI, even if they plan on sitting him most of the season, having zero assurances they'll get to keep him, or that they even want to resign him to a max contract.


It's real simple and you don't seem to understand that they aren't making any trades to add talent to their roster right now, regardless if they are hurt and can't play. They do not care about winning this year, nor do they want to hamstring themselves with any salaries for next year, and that's what BI would be.
If they trade Claxton and Johnson for expiring contracts, they'll have nothing on the books for next year but minimums, and they'll have a ton of draft picks to throw at teams to acquire a new set of stars and save some teams a ton of money in salary if they want to do that next year.

Funny you mention all the cap space. If they wanted BI, they’d just sign him in the offseason. Why give up assets for him now?
They are the only team with cap space like that.

They aren’t trading for players. They are trading away players.
They aren’t drafting 5 guys either. I’ve explained that already.

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he sprained his ankle. He's not out for the season. He's probably goign to be back within the next 2 weeks unless there's been some damage done to his ankle that requires surgery that they haven't released yet.

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He's already in his return to play protocol. He's been getting work in and was even in warm-ups before the Dallas game.

you've made a ton of assumptions on what you think im saying.

They aren't trading for good players before this deadline. Literally every single report on trades talks says this.

I haven't said they are going to make 6 picks, or 5 picks or 4 picks this upcoming draft. I haven't said they would'nt trade picks for players this offseason.
I simply said they aren't trading away picks right now, and they aren't going to be making all of those 1st round picks this upcoming draft.


I don't know what their plan is for next year. Are they going to hope to get a top 3 pick, then build a team through the draft for a few years before trying to make a big splash on a trade? Or are they goign to use their top pick this year to try to make a trade for a superstar, and look to S&T for another star, and then build their team around that? Or are they goign to make the top pick, and then go out and try to S&T for a young star to pair with their draft pick? I don't know, but I'm fairly certain they aren't giving up any assets to add talent to their team at this deadline.

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The team with the most space will dump all of their players at 50-60mil without taking any salary back?

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Tha'ts not even possible at the deadline. see why would you think that, and where did i say that?

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and that they are 100% using their 5 picks to move up instead of trading for a player.

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Again, when did i say that's 100% what they are going to do?
I simply said that's what teams can do when they have too many 1sts and giving you a reason why they don't need to make those moves right now like you're proposing, b/c they will do this leading up to the draft once the draft order is known.

To change the subject, I'd like to point out that there are 3 weeks until the deadline and there are 3 teams that have to make a move to cut salary.

Pelicans are obviously one of them. We need to shed about $2.1M to get under the tax, and we 100% will.

Cavs need to shed $1.9M
Clippers need to shed $2.5M

It's been reported pretty unaimously that all 3 teams are going to get under the tax.

GSW needs to shed $6M, and i wouldn't be surprised if they try to get under it as well. (Kuminga makes $7.6M, Looney $8M, Gary Payton $9M)

The Pistons are the only team with cap space, with almost $20M to use. They are going to absorb some salary at the deadline without a doubt. Whether that's absorbing salary to get assets or to add talent now, is yet to be known, but I think people are expecting them to maybe add talent now that they look like a playoff team, and they don't get to keep their 1st round pick if they make the playoffs this year, and the protections get less for next year if they don't convey this year, so they might as well just get it over with and lose the 1st this year.

There are several teams with room under the tax that can absorb some salary in an uneven trade or use their TPE and stay under the tax.
Hornets have $10.4M in tax room and a $6.5M TPE
Bulls have $4.5M in tax room and a $17.5M TPE
Rockets have $10.5M in tax room
OKC have $10.5M in tax room
Magic have $20.4M in tax room
Blazers have $3.6M in tax room and a $6.9M TPE
Kings have $3.2M in tax room and a $6.3M TPE
Spurs have $21M in tax room
Jazz have $27M in tax room and a $6.5M TPE
Raptors have $10M in tax room and a $5.1 TPE
Wizards have $11.9M in tax room and a $12.4M TPE

These teams can make uneven trades using these rules:
200% of the outgoing salary (plus $250K), for any amount up to $7,500,000.
The outgoing salary plus $7.5MM, for any amount between $7,500,001 and $29,000,000.
125% of the outgoing salary (plus $250K), for any amount above $29,000,000.




It'll be an interesting 3 weeks to see if any big trade happens, or if we are just looking at small trades where these 3 teams look to get under the tax, and maybe a handful of playoff teams look for some small upgrades.

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I guess I dont' quite understand what you're saying, and you don't understand what I'm saying.

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I legit understand exactly what you are saying because all my responses above are in reference to it. I also find it hard to believe you don't understand what I'm saying because you responded very confidently to everything I said.

This will be my last message towards it because this is around the time I get called an "a-hole" or "arrogant" instead of the other person just acknowledging what they said or how it affected the conversation....

Or you just missed me. Which I missed you too pal