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re: Bill Simmons Hypothetical Pels/Piston Trade
Posted on 11/16/13 at 1:30 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 11/16/13 at 1:30 pm to Mickey Goldmill
I think he's a free agent after next year.
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Posted on 11/16/13 at 1:31 pm to mm2316
I proposed a similar trade in previous thread my trade was:
Gordon
Anderson
Rivers
for
Monroe
Villanueva
Stuckey
Singler
I like it. Monroe and Davis would be a formidable front court for years to come. Tyreke and Holiday would be a solid back court. In my trade I would have Singler or Morrow starting at the 3(or Aminu). Stuckey would be decent coming off of the bench as the third guard.
ETA: Monroe is a free agent after this season, but he is from New Orleans and the trade would open enough cap space for a max level deal from the Pelicans.
Gordon
Anderson
Rivers
for
Monroe
Villanueva
Stuckey
Singler
I like it. Monroe and Davis would be a formidable front court for years to come. Tyreke and Holiday would be a solid back court. In my trade I would have Singler or Morrow starting at the 3(or Aminu). Stuckey would be decent coming off of the bench as the third guard.
ETA: Monroe is a free agent after this season, but he is from New Orleans and the trade would open enough cap space for a max level deal from the Pelicans.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 1:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Doing a great job at it too in trusting Dell and Monty
3 -6 but the season is young ........
3 -6 but the season is young ........
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:05 pm to PG
Biggest problem with the NBA, moving contacts and getting expiring contracts tales precedence over acquiring talent.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:14 pm to Puddinhead
It would definitely be a 1 step back to take two steps forwards deal. And you'd have to have a plan in mind for the cap space.
I think, if possible, I'd rather trade Anderson for Asik and then trade Gordon for expirings, if that's what the team wants to do with him.
Isn't there a Pistons fan that posts on here sometimes (LSUPiston?). I'd like to hear what he thinks about this deal from their side.
I think, if possible, I'd rather trade Anderson for Asik and then trade Gordon for expirings, if that's what the team wants to do with him.
Isn't there a Pistons fan that posts on here sometimes (LSUPiston?). I'd like to hear what he thinks about this deal from their side.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:27 pm to mm2316
quote:
Yay
i love greg monroe though
stuckey moves to evans' role and plays backup point. he's underrated as a third guard
monroe would work well with davis as 1-2 punch on offense. they'd do great in the high-low, and monroe is a great passer...but monroe's D isn't that great
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:30 pm to mm2316
quote:
NO receives: Monroe, Villanueva (expiring), Stuckey (expiring)
DET receives: Anderson, Gordon, Withey
Yay or No?
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:35 pm to RonBurgundy
Ummm, how could you say NO to this trade.
Monroe is one of the top centers in the league, which many teams covet.
He and Davis would be unbelievable.
Monroe is one of the top centers in the league, which many teams covet.
He and Davis would be unbelievable.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:42 pm to mm2316
quote:
Isn't there a Pistons fan that posts on here sometimes (LSUPiston?). I'd like to hear what he thinks about this deal from their side.
I am currently busy, but I will try to post about this sometime later today.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 2:53 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Benson doesn't want cap space or expiring deal. He wants to win now
Uh... clearing up cap space to sign free agents the following off-season allows you to basically 'win now.' They aren't winning jack shite this season.
As far as the trade goes... I think it's too much to give up for Monroe. Obviously I have no problem shipping Gordon off but Anderson's contract is so good.
quote:
think, if possible, I'd rather trade Anderson for Asik and then trade Gordon for expirings, if that's what the team wants to do with him.
Why on Earth would you prefer that? Monroe is miles better than Asik.
This post was edited on 11/16/13 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 11/16/13 at 3:07 pm to mm2316
The thoughts on a Davis/Monrow front court is rather arousing
Posted on 11/16/13 at 4:58 pm to TigerTatorTots
quote:
The thoughts on a Davis/Monrow front court is rather arousing
That's a lot of scoring to give up in order to get it. We would still have a huge hole at SF, and like it or not, Gordon usually puts up around 15-20 PPG. Not saying we shouldn't trade him, but giving up two 23-25 year olds that can score the ball consistently just hitting their prime for one center seems like a bad idea.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:08 pm to mm2316
Isn't Monroe more of a PF than a C or am I mistaken?
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:13 pm to hendersonshands
quote:
Isn't Monroe more of a PF than a C or am I mistaken
PF but at 6'11" and 250 he can probably be a "center" whatever that means these days.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:15 pm to VOR
Yeah, I haven't watched him enough to have a real opinion on him but it doesn't seem like it'd be worth it if he was too similar to Davis.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:16 pm to hendersonshands
quote:Monroe can play in the high post because he has good passing skills and he can play with his back to the basket. I think he would be a good fit with Davis.
but it doesn't seem like it'd be worth it if he was too similar to Davis.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:23 pm to hendersonshands
I don't feel that it is a good fit defensively for us. We don't need more offense down low. We need more defense. He isn't a long 6'11. He isn't elite rebounder. Isn't elite low post defender. He is better than what we have but he is more of a PF. I feel as if the pistons thought he was center they wouldn't have taken Drummond as well. I like him but I don't know if it is good fit. Need a rim protector
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:32 pm to LSU1SLU
I knew this board always overvalued Anderson, but my Lord I can't believe some of the things I'm reading in this thread 
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:38 pm to LasVegasBandit
quote:
I knew this board always overvalued Anderson,
Shut your whore mouth.
He may be overvalued by some, but I do want to see him play with this roster. It could make a difference. Of course, that assumes Monty can figure out what the frick to do with him.
Posted on 11/16/13 at 5:54 pm to The Future
quote:
and like it or not, Gordon usually puts up around 15-20 PPG.
quote:
That's a lot of scoring to give up in order to get it.
monroe is an 18-20 ppg guy, and stuckey can easily be a 15 ppg guy if given minutes
plus evans will score more if given more minutes. the scoring is a wash
the spacing is not
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