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re: Would Kurt Cobain have been more successful than Eddie Vedder?
Posted on 3/22/14 at 1:01 pm to RoyalBaby
Posted on 3/22/14 at 1:01 pm to RoyalBaby
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Personally, I think he would have given up music and would have become an extremely reclusive writer.
This. Haven't any of you ever read his suicide letter? He felt guilty about losing his passion for music, performing and the industry itself leading up to the suicide.
Plus, Vedder is a more talented vocalist, writer, and lead man.
This post was edited on 3/22/14 at 2:44 pm
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Posted on 3/22/14 at 3:46 pm to MC123
You guys talking about vocal talent have been watching too much American Idol and The Voice. Cobain had what are called distinctive vocals. Beautiful to me. I like Vedder's voice, too, but do this: try to sing like Vedder, then try to sing like Cobain.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 3:52 pm to Brosef Stalin
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He didn't want to be successful in the first place
"I want (nirvana) to be the biggest band in the world" - Kurt Cobain
Posted on 3/22/14 at 6:56 pm to High C
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been watching too much American Idol and The Voice. Cobain had what are called distinctive vocals.
Argument FOR Vedder though IMO. Cobains style does not hold up well with old age. That scream and rasp does not translate well live for very long. Vedder had to tone it down. Porch for example is not performed live the same way anymore. Cobain would have had to do the same.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 8:03 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Exactly. My super positive spin would be for him to be a recluse.
Bassist left music altogether and we all know what Groul (sp?) went on to.
Not sure if I remember the timeframe right but I thought Evenflow made it before SLTS. SLTS just made it bigger?
Bassist left music altogether and we all know what Groul (sp?) went on to.
Not sure if I remember the timeframe right but I thought Evenflow made it before SLTS. SLTS just made it bigger?
Posted on 3/22/14 at 8:10 pm to RoyalBaby
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Bassist left music altogether
Novoselic is a politician now. He's in the Washington state House of Representatives. He also played on at least one song on the last Foo Fighters album.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 8:57 pm to TH03
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the frick does this even mean? they're human, of course they care what other people think.
Right.
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they wouldn't have released albums to the public if they didn't. the difference was they seemingly didn't let it affect what they put out on record.
Maybe, but it seemed calculated while appearing lackadaisical. I'd rather have real honesty, whatever that might be.
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they played and recorded what they wanted to play and record, not what they thought the public wanted. they still cared about what people thought of it after they released it, but that's different than not giving a shite altogether.
It was more than the music. It was about giving off the appearance of not caring. It was a response to hair metal, but it was ultimately just as shallow.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 9:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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if you don't like punk based music that's fine but drop this pretentious "i know what bands are real/fake" and "my opinion about a musicians talent is 'right' and yours is "wrong'" nonsense
Punk music?
My comments were about grunge, and the critiques were about the genre itself.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 9:25 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Porch for example is not performed live the same way anymore. Cobain would have had to do the same.
Good example
Posted on 3/22/14 at 9:43 pm to tigerbru17
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Personally, I think he would have given up music and would have become an extremely reclusive writer.
This. Or if he was making music I'm not sure it would be looked at as main stream music so not as successful as PJ but more by choice and wanting to walk away from the fame.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:27 pm to tigerbru17
Nope.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:28 pm to Patrick O Rly
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My comments were about grunge, and the critiques were about the genre itself.
Grunge is a subgenre of punk concocted out of thin air by Sub Pop. It's just a cross between metal and punk, and the Seattle bands all came up through the punk scene.
I think Cobain's later career would've looked like Mark Lanegan or Evan Dando's. Either a series of acclaimed but small albums that are essentially folk records or a disappearances/reapparance with the comeback album being surprisingly good.
Posted on 3/22/14 at 10:46 pm to Baloo
I think Kurt would have just faded out of the public spot light. Nirvana was on the outs and everyone knew it.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 10:30 am to monsterballads
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I think Kurt would have just faded out of the public spot light. Nirvana was on the outs and everyone knew it.
Definitely possible. Could Kurt have transitioned from "angst" in his writing?
Vedder did and the band suffered for it. But they stuck it out and are still relevant. But for a few years everybody (me included) just wanted to hear another Ten
Posted on 3/23/14 at 4:23 pm to Patrick O Rly
Maybe not as successful but he would have probably made more profound/interesting art. I mean he's already accomplished that.
Nirvana is punk...
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Punk music?
My comments were about grunge, and the critiques were about the genre itself.
Nirvana is punk...
Posted on 3/23/14 at 4:56 pm to tigerbru17
No
Posted on 3/23/14 at 7:23 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Vedder did and the band suffered for it. But they stuck it out and are still relevant. But for a few years everybody (me included) just wanted to hear another Ten
They didn't suffer a whole lot. They may have lost some fans that only wanted to hear Black, but their music has gotten exponentially better over the years.
If you want to hear their best album, give Binural a listen. It is timeless and shows a fully mature band at their peak IMO.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:16 pm to RoyalBaby
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They didn't suffer a whole lot. They may have lost some fans that only wanted to hear Black, but their music has gotten exponentially better over the years. If you want to hear their best album, give Binural a listen. It is timeless and shows a fully mature band at their peak IMO.
I completely agree but am a total Pearl Jam homer. But at Binaural stage they lost me for a while. This was 2000. I went to their woodlands binaural tour show #1. Didn't fully appreciate the show while there. Bought the CD (they released each show of the tour as a double CD) of MY show. When I listen to it now I think it's awesome. I have seen them 4 times. 1st at Vs. Tour. Last in Dallas this past November.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 8:30 pm to Kayhill Brown
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Nirvana is punk...
Nah.
Posted on 3/23/14 at 9:09 pm to Patrick O Rly
Uh yeah.
Hairspray Queen, Downer, Tourettes, Territorial Pissings--totally punk. Along with a bunch of other songs.
Hairspray Queen, Downer, Tourettes, Territorial Pissings--totally punk. Along with a bunch of other songs.
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