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re: Why was this ever a thing?

Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
13193 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:45 pm to
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Because beta male culture started well before the 2010s. The 80’s hair band scene was infested with just as many beta cucks as the 2010 SJWs. I know this will really offend the hardcore KISS and Bon Jovi fans that love to take it up the arse from their husband’s boyfriend on the regular, but it really was and is still is embarrassing for American culture to this day. And to think there’s grown men that still obsess and defend it. Sad.

you sound like a liberal arts professor
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 6:34 pm to
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No doubt they did because it was the big thing and girls like to frick big things. But I just find it crazy that it ever was a big thing though


Androgeny was popular since Bowie, at least. And you had the New York Dolls influencing all kinds of punk bands and also Nikki Sixx, although MC really only had the one album with the glam look. Motley always set the trends and then moved on.

A lot of it had to do with being stylish and causing controversy and getting press/noticed. That's a lot easier to do when you stand out from the crowd.

Duran Duran got more chicks than the stones or the Beatles with that style. It was a product of the times. Seemed like most of the English pop acts did that until the mid 80s.

Twisted Sister was on another trip, like someone mentioned.
This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 6:36 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38681 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 11:51 pm to
The Beatles and Stones were dismissed by conservatives as gay acts. The pushback from some pop musicians was to grow longer hair and to look intentionally feminine. That opened the door for bi and gay artists to push further in the 70’s. By the 80’s you had to look like a gay superhero to stand out as being “outrageous”.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31596 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 6:29 am to
Why was outrageous the goal?
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14738 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 6:35 am to
quote:

quote:
Because beta male culture started well before the 2010s. The 80’s hair band scene was infested with just as many beta cucks as the 2010 SJWs. I know this will really offend the hardcore KISS and Bon Jovi fans that love to take it up the arse from their husband’s boyfriend on the regular, but it really was and is still is embarrassing for American culture to this day. And to think there’s grown men that still obsess and defend it. Sad.


you sound like a liberal arts professor
He actually reeks of projection or the latent lament of having done it with a boy band. Twink probably got passed around late one night after a long bender and secretly wondering what it feels like to to be a woman. He might as well get on with the sex change and spare us all his regrets.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14738 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 6:50 am to
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Why was outrageous the goal?
. . . perhaps differentiation?

More of the 'There is no such thing as bad publicity'? (PT Barnum)



or 'Any press being good press'.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 7:52 am to
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Why was outrageous the goal?


Rock n Roll
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13226 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:50 am to
Frank Zappa's take:



A Tinsel Town Rebellion Band

Did you know that in Tinsel Town the people down there
Think that substance is a bore
And if your New Wave group looks good
They'll hurry on back for more
Of leather groups and plastic groups
And groups that look real queer
The Tinsel Town aficionados
Come to see and not to hear
But then again this system works
As perfect as a dream
It works for all of those record company pricks
Who come to skim the cream
From the cesspools of excitement
Where Jim Morrison once stood
It's the Tinsel Town Rebellion
From downtown Hollywood
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12856 posts
Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Frank Zappa's take:



A Tinsel Town Rebellion Band

Did you know that in Tinsel Town the people down there
Think that substance is a bore
And if your New Wave group looks good
They'll hurry on back for more
Of leather groups and plastic groups
And groups that look real queer
The Tinsel Town aficionados
Come to see and not to hear
But then again this system works
As perfect as a dream
It works for all of those record company pricks
Who come to skim the cream
From the cesspools of excitement
Where Jim Morrison once stood
It's the Tinsel Town Rebellion
From downtown Hollywood


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